Car: 93 del sol si/04 element exs,76rm370,77ke250,kz1425,18'boat
Mods: sol-zex cam&gear,cp cai,dc sports header,spoon cat,pilot exh,apexi flywheel,clutch,diz,coil,plugs,wires,gold line springs,struts,f/r strut brace&lower tie bars. element-exs,real time awd,side air bags,fog lamps,top rack,rear fin,tow pkg,sun roof,11"swivel dvd,playstation2,240watt premium sound system w/sub,mp3 input,rear pwr receptacle,tint.
what bolt ons void warranty?
i just bought the 04 element exs and i was considering the cold air intake and chipping the computer but was told by the salesman that this would void the warranty. he did say that if honda installed a honda cai that the warranty would remain intact, but that's like $1500 bux. anyone have any input on this?
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1993 del sol si
2004 element exs
sol-zex cam&gear,port/polish,cp cai,dc header,spoon cat,pilot exh,apexi flywheel/clutch,diz,coil,ecu,fuel pump,ngk's,8mm wires,gold line springs,struts,f/r up strut brace&f/r lower tie bars,silver dash accents,euro police air horn,german front plate. element-exs,real time awd,side air bags,fog lamps,top rack,rear fin,tow pkg,sun roof,11"swivel dvd,playstation2,240watt premium sound system w/sub,mp3 input,rear pwr receptacle,tint,german front plate.
Chipping would be voiding the warrenty. But however if you install and something may happen, usually the dealer would blame the mod. Usually the CAI, shouldn't cost up to $1500
i just bought the 04 element exs and i was considering the cold air intake and chipping the computer but was told by the salesman that this would void the warranty. he did say that if honda installed a honda cai that the warranty would remain intact, but that's like $1500 bux. anyone have any input on this?
dont bother with the dealer. the dealer has to prove that your mod was the cuase of the problem. like if you put in an intake, they cant void your suspension warranty. most of the time bolt on shouldn't cause you any problems though.
the chipping on the other hand....this can be a difficult situation. most dealers are kool with bolt ons.
Car: 93 del sol si/04 element exs,76rm370,77ke250,kz1425,18'boat
Mods: sol-zex cam&gear,cp cai,dc sports header,spoon cat,pilot exh,apexi flywheel,clutch,diz,coil,plugs,wires,gold line springs,struts,f/r strut brace&lower tie bars. element-exs,real time awd,side air bags,fog lamps,top rack,rear fin,tow pkg,sun roof,11"swivel dvd,playstation2,240watt premium sound system w/sub,mp3 input,rear pwr receptacle,tint.
sweet thanx for the info, i'll prob contact a senior honda mechanic b4 doing anything. it's not exactly a sports car but would like to get max performance anyway.
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1993 del sol si
2004 element exs
sol-zex cam&gear,port/polish,cp cai,dc header,spoon cat,pilot exh,apexi flywheel/clutch,diz,coil,ecu,fuel pump,ngk's,8mm wires,gold line springs,struts,f/r up strut brace&f/r lower tie bars,silver dash accents,euro police air horn,german front plate. element-exs,real time awd,side air bags,fog lamps,top rack,rear fin,tow pkg,sun roof,11"swivel dvd,playstation2,240watt premium sound system w/sub,mp3 input,rear pwr receptacle,tint,german front plate.
no mods will void warrantys except illegal catalytic converters/pipes and SOME chips.
Federal law prohibits a dealer from voiding your warranty just because you are using aftermarket speed equipment, with only two exceptions: the warranty can be voided if the aftermarket part causes damage, or adversely affects the emissions or the emissions system. In recent documents produced by the SEMA (Specialty Equipment Market Association ), a trade association representing specialty automotive parts manufacturers, the following quotes have been extracted:
"The vehicle manufacturer is not allowed to void the vehicle warranty just because aftermarket equipment is installed on the vehicle. This protection for consumers is the result of a parts self certification program developed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA).
"Under the program, if a parts maker completes the EPA process of self-certifying its parts, the vehicle manufacturer cannot void the warranty even if the certified part has failed and is directly responsible for the warranty claim. In cases where such a failed aftermarket part is responsible for a warranty claim, the manufacturer must arrange a settlement with the part manufacturer, but the new vehicle warrant is not void under the law. "If the failure to honor a claim involves the new-vehicle warranty, and it appears that the manufacturer is improperly denying a claim, the incident should be reported to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC is responsible for monitoring compliance with the warranty law; the agency's telephone number is 202.326.3128.
no mods will void warrantys except illegal catalytic converters/pipes and SOME chips.
Federal law prohibits a dealer from voiding your warranty just because you are using aftermarket speed equipment, with only two exceptions: the warranty can be voided if the aftermarket part causes damage, or adversely affects the emissions or the emissions system. In recent documents produced by the SEMA (Specialty Equipment Market Association ), a trade association representing specialty automotive parts manufacturers, the following quotes have been extracted:
"The vehicle manufacturer is not allowed to void the vehicle warranty just because aftermarket equipment is installed on the vehicle. This protection for consumers is the result of a parts self certification program developed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA).
"Under the program, if a parts maker completes the EPA process of self-certifying its parts, the vehicle manufacturer cannot void the warranty even if the certified part has failed and is directly responsible for the warranty claim. In cases where such a failed aftermarket part is responsible for a warranty claim, the manufacturer must arrange a settlement with the part manufacturer, but the new vehicle warrant is not void under the law. "If the failure to honor a claim involves the new-vehicle warranty, and it appears that the manufacturer is improperly denying a claim, the incident should be reported to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC is responsible for monitoring compliance with the warranty law; the agency's telephone number is 202.326.3128.
No bolt on aftermarket product can void a warranty unless the aftermarket product causes the malfunction, or breakage or whatever the case may be.
Read my last post above.... it is ILLEGAL for them to void the warranty, even if the aftermarket part causes the malfunction or breakage.
"Under the program, if a parts maker completes the EPA process of self-certifying its parts, the vehicle manufacturer cannot void the warranty even if the certified part has failed and is directly responsible for the warranty claim. In cases where such a failed aftermarket part is responsible for a warranty claim, the manufacturer must arrange a settlement with the part manufacturer, but the new vehicle warrant is not void under the law. "If the failure to honor a claim involves the new-vehicle warranty, and it appears that the manufacturer is improperly denying a claim, the incident should be reported to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC is responsible for monitoring compliance with the warranty law; the agency's telephone number is 202.326.3128."
Read my last post above.... it is ILLEGAL for them to void the warranty, even if the aftermarket part causes the malfunction or breakage.
"Under the program, if a parts maker completes the EPA process of self-certifying its parts, the vehicle manufacturer cannot void the warranty even if the certified part has failed and is directly responsible for the warranty claim. In cases where such a failed aftermarket part is responsible for a warranty claim, the manufacturer must arrange a settlement with the part manufacturer, but the new vehicle warrant is not void under the law. "If the failure to honor a claim involves the new-vehicle warranty, and it appears that the manufacturer is improperly denying a claim, the incident should be reported to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC is responsible for monitoring compliance with the warranty law; the agency's telephone number is 202.326.3128."
Where did you get all of that information? Do you have a link to the FTC regarding this?
If the product meets factory specs, then no the warranty cannot be void, but adding a supercharger to an N/A engine, or K&N air filter is not factory spec.
The SEMA website states what I stated earlier. http://www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=8124
It is also covered in the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.
it's under The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act... you can check sema's website for the info.
So I guess you're saying if the aftermarket product meets factory specs that the warranty cannot be void correct? But most aftermarket products don't meet factory specs. Ex. Aftermarket turbo for a Civic, or after camshaft.
in a situation like a turbo charger system that wouldn't VOID the warranty of the vehicle. Though they discuss the settlments that would have to be made between parties to resolve issues in such an instance. If you have someone unauthorized to make the installation and they screw up and don't add oil to the engine when done, then obviously that's not a "warranty" related issue and you'd be at fault. If an authorized dealer puts the turbo on, their service is warrantied and they are then held responsible for the malfunction of such a product.
if your car is wrecked, and an authorized dealer or 'pro-shop' fixes it they can't void the warranty on the car even though it was almost totalled. It's all legistics. As far as a intake manifold causing problems in the future, if it's the right manifold, it should perform the exact same function as the previous part thus the warranty would still be good. if you mated a d series manifold to a b series head you're at fault.
This federal law regulates warranties for the protection of consumers. The essence of the law concerning aftermarket auto parts is that a vehicle manufacturer may not condition a written or implied warranty on the consumers using parts or services which are identified by brand, trade, or corporate name (such as the vehicle maker's brand) unless the parts or service are provided free of charge. The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty. However, the law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in situations where such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under the warranty. Further, consumers are advised to be aware of any specific terms or conditions stated in the warranty which may result in its being voided. The law states in relevant part:
“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name...” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).
2. Clean Air Act Warranty Provisions (42 U.S.C. S 7541 (C) (3) (B))
The federal Clean Air Act requires vehicle makers to provide two emissions-related warranties -- a production warranty and a performance warranty. The production warranty requires the vehicle maker to warrant that the vehicle is designed, built and equipped so that it conforms with emissions requirements at the time of sale. The performance warranty requires the vehicle maker to warrant that the vehicle will comply with applicable emissions requirements as tested under state vehicle emissions inspection programs for the warranty periods specified in the law (for model year 1995 and later vehicles, the warranty is 2 years/24,000 miles for all emissions-related parts and 8 years/80,000 miles for the catalytic converter, electronic emissions control unit and on-board diagnostic device). The performance warranty is conditioned on the vehicle being properly maintained and operated.
Like the Magnuson-Moss Act, vehicle manufacturers may not refuse warranty repairs under the Clean Air Acts performance and defect warranties merely because aftermarket parts have been installed on the vehicle. The only circumstance under which the vehicle manufacturer can void the emissions warranties is if an aftermarket part is responsible for (causes) the warranty claim.
what bolt ons void warranty?
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