200whp SC'ed D16??? - Honda Forum / Acura Forum

anassa · 08-05-2007, 10:33 AM

ok so i wanna build my D16 for my JRSC and i know its probably highly improbable but is there any way to make close/ if not 200whp on a SC'ed D16?????

This is what i have, or is on the way:
1. D16y8 head: has crower springs/retainers, AEM cam gear, Comps stage 1 cam shaft, and a mild port job done.
2. y8 dizzy w/ MSD cap/rotor and blaster 2 external coil
3. hoping to get a D16a6 sleeved block
4. Unorthodox Racing pulley - no ps/ac
5. JRSC w/450cc injectors and 8lb upgrade pully
6. Injen CAI
7 2.5' catback w unkown headers (still looking for quality headers that are cheap . . go figure)

i know i got alot to go, on my list are: hondata intake gasket, pistons/rods (which??) should i go a bit higher compression? like 9 something? would low 10's be ok?? i know with turbo low compression is what most ppl do but i thought mabye with SC and a bit higher compression i could make more power. .. safely that is, ok SC gurus, lets make a killer D16!!!!!

ksniperfox · 08-05-2007, 12:43 PM

higher compression will always make more power, turbo or not.

but it is harder to tune and make reliable the higher comp you go.

if you're shooting for 200whp out of a SC, forget the UO crank pulley. youll have to get the largest crank pulley you can find for max boost, and that isnt going to help you. d16y8 crank pulley is the largest D series crank pulley at 6.29 inches in diameter, and fits right on. call JR and tell them you want a 3.2' blower pulley for your m45 blower. it is about $95 shipped.

the idea is a smaller blower pulley, and larger crank pulley for max boost.

if you get springs/retainers, atleast get a bigger cam than a comp stg1 lol

ditch the MSD shit. ditch the sleeves. use a stock bottom end. get your blower ported, meth injection will be necessary!

anassa · 08-05-2007, 01:54 PM

thank you much sir, btw why ditch the MSD ignition??? wouldn't it be better then stock? also the D16a6 block has the sleeves all done, if it won't hinder performance why not just leave it on? then if i ever get tired of the JRSC i can go turbo and have a block that can handle it, or am i wrong? and meth injection? i'll look into that, and with the comp stg1 cam... i know, but it was all already installed on the head already , thats the only reason why i could afford a built D16 head, cause it was all done already and the guy sold it cheap. . . but ya if i get a different cam shaft i heard the crower stg3 is very good, but i gota save up for that too, hopefully i'll be posting some pics in the following week of what i got
-j

AcidLotus · 08-05-2007, 01:55 PM

I'm a big fan of nitrous over water/meth injection. A bit harder to tune, but adds quite a bit of power, getting you over that 200 WHP fairly easily.

anassa · 08-05-2007, 02:03 PM

ok i still got read up on what meth/water injection actually does, how it helps, and how much it costs, but i'm not looking to run the engine on n2o, just cause it seems like alot more work, and will cut the life of the motor by quite a bit, and its pretty obviouse too, i'm trying to keep the engine bay looking clean and stock, not with all different colors and tons of crap going all over the place, just in case i get pulled over

btw: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=170136806369
does it seem worth it?? thats the D16a6 block i was talking about

daveb91 · 08-05-2007, 03:07 PM

Dont ditch the MSD stuff I use it its good insurance. 10:1 compression would be ideal but only with W/M inj. Go with a bigger TB also if you havent already go with bigger injectors and a tunable ecu and ditch the FMU. Definately look into porting the blower. Port the s tube.

daveb91 · 08-05-2007, 03:08 PM

Also do you really want to spend over $40 every time you fill a N2O bottle?

ksniperfox · 08-05-2007, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by daveb91

Also do you really want to spend over $40 every time you fill a N2O bottle?

plus, you can get a tank of meth to replace your windshield washer fluid. would look pretty much OEM

but shit, if you can get a sleeved a6 block then hell yeah go for it. i thought you were starting from scratch. a bigger cam would help some.

PickleTeg · 08-05-2007, 07:56 PM

It is going to be a spendy trip to get to 200 WHP on a d-series...it was hard enough for me in my LS. I am sure it can be done....the thing is how much are you willing to spend?

anassa · 08-05-2007, 09:18 PM

lol how much am i willing to spend.. as little as possible, the reason i think it may be possible is cause so many ppl are going B's that ppl are getting rid of thier D16 stuff, so i'm getting stuff for like 1/4 or less of what it would really cost

daveb91 · 08-05-2007, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PickleTeg

It is going to be a spendy trip to get to 200 WHP on a d-series...it was hard enough for me in my LS. I am sure it can be done....the thing is how much are you willing to spend?

yeah but your LS has a blower that barely big enough for our Single slammers.

ksniperfox · 08-06-2007, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by daveb91

yeah but your LS has a blower that barely big enough for our Single slammers.

lol@the m45 on the LS. poor ls. all other Bs get m62s

gurusan · 08-06-2007, 07:25 AM

I would bump the C/R up to 10-10.5:1 or so, port the JRSC, and get one of those LHT intercooler things...but honestly I still wouldn't expect 200whp.

For a JRSC you trade off peak power for instant linear power....if you want 200whp your best bet is to turbocharge....it will do 200 whp no problem and cost a lot less.

PickleTeg · 08-06-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by daveb91

yeah but your LS has a blower that barely big enough for our Single slammers.

I know that LOL...I wish I had the time to get a M62 on there but that would be long in the future..everyone that gets the M45 gets screwed!