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Old 01-28-2007, 03:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I need info about whp on jrsc + gsr

hello

I read some topic in this forum and i have saw that most people have 220 - 230 whp with jackson racing + gsr .

Me i have a gsr motor with jrsc and i just have 200 whp at 10 -12 psi .

my setup :

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fuel pump walbro 255
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why I just have 200whp ?

and I a read about intercooler . What is this intercooler ?

( sorry for my english i speak french , i live in québec )

thanks for your answer.
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Old 01-28-2007, 04:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You lowered your compression ratio, so you will lose some peak hp.
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just with the low compression I lost 30 whp an d more ?

a stock gsr + jrsc at 10-12 psi , how much whp ?
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correct me if im wrong but are those 310 injectors big enough for your application? Also, did you have your car dyno tuned?
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yes my cars is tuned dyno and injector is perfect for this appilcation.
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correct me if im wrong but are those 310 injectors big enough for your application? Also, did you have your car dyno tuned?
Those injectors are plenty big enough.
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just with the low compression I lost 30 whp an d more ?

a stock gsr + jrsc at 10-12 psi , how much whp ?
What is your wtq. 200whp sounds about right. Also what psi where you at with 200whp? 10 or 12?
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i have 175 lb tq and my 200 whp is at 10 psi

the boost is at 12 psi before vtec and over 6000 rpm he is at 10 psi

it's normal ?
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I am guessing a good standalone engine management system may help. The lower compression is going to hurt you with a JRSC application. For those 310s to give you a 11.8-12 to 1 A/F ratio you must be running a pretty high fuel pressure. What kind of dyno was thing on? Was it hot out? Was the intake manifold heat soaked? These could be factors also. 200 WHP is low for a GSR with the boost you are running. Most GSRs that I have seen make about 200 whp on stock JRSC boost (6 psi). For info on the LHT intercooler go to LHTperformance.net or check out my build thread on here. I have some decent pics of it on my car.

EDIT: I just looked at the pics of your car and I saw that you are still running the JR FMU. If you want better power and drivabilty sell the JR FMU, the Emanage and the 310s, lower your fuel pressure and get some 440s and Hondata/Crome/ect and get this thing back on the dyno. Shoot for 11.8-12.0 to 1 A/F ratios. I think this could be a major part of your issue. The rest of what you got looks fine.
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Pickleteg....just curious why you suggest tuning to an AFR of 12? I would have thought a target would be closer to 14...tks
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14 is perfect for cruising, but under half-throttle or more, you need something richer to provide protection to the engine - 14 under boost is too lean.
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14 is perfect for cruising, but under half-throttle or more, you need something richer to provide protection to the engine - 14 under boost is too lean.

Ok...I'm about to replace the stock JR FMU with a cartech fmu. The stock one runs 11--11.5 under wot (I have a full time wideband with data log). What would be a good target (and still reasonably safe) for the cartech...13?
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Shoot for the most just before slight detonation in high temperatures. Probably between 12 and 13.5
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I read an article on Hostboard.com that was written by Jim Helbing from Motorvations that said under WOT on a dyno that 11.8-12.0 are best for boost because on the street you will see slightly higher A/F ratio numbers then on the dyno (more like 12.5 to 1). I have no idea why this is. He tuned my car to the 11.8-12.0 when mine was on the dyno. I trust few with my car and Jim is well known to be one of (if not) the best JRSC tuner around.
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