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Old 07-30-2007, 08:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Methanol/injection question?

Hi!

I have problems with high IAT and that`s why i want to use methanol/water mixture to cool it down?
I`m boosting 9.5psi on my 94 delsol with b16a engine,but first pull is okey,i have a lot of power but then i get the IAT problems which rise up to 125deg.C or 257 degF,so i stop to pull and install M/I kit.
How are yours experiance with M/I?Is it really cooling down the IAT?Can somebody tell me what`s the best A/f ratio to run with M/I?
At how much boost is it the best to start to inject?
How much liter do you need for about 100km?I intend to use 50/50 mixture.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Meth injection acts just like a chemical intercooler, it will lower intake temps drastically, it allows you to run more boost/more advanced timing on the same octane rating. When you buy a kit, it comes with everything you need, it comes on at pretty low boost..like under 5psi im pretty sure. Same A/F ratio as before, like between 10.5:1-12:1, its getting more popular because its pretty safe, you just have to make sure its always on, always has water/meth mixture, all the vacuum sources are secured because if something malfunctions and you're running more boost, more timing and all of a sudden the injection quits, i'm sure you can guess what happens.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I am a member on there forums there they can answer all your questions.
One thing you have to member you are going to have to have this tuned for W/I. If not you will be running rich and you will actually loose power. A common complaint with people running it. I was told to inject right before the tb so it will also cool te SC components you will also gain.5-1 psi because the fluid makes the rotor tolerances closer. If you are tuning for W/I and you want 12:1 ratio you actually tune for 12.5:1 because the Methanol will lower it another .5 or so. I am going to go this route soon when I get some work don to the blower.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Also snow and I think other companies also have kits for eaton blowers if you are running some advanced timing with the W/M injection and you need a safe guard in such that if the W/M inj failed or clogged for some reason and your tune was so rad that it would harm your motor by going lean They have a module that has a solenoid that would open the bypass valve an therefore cutting boost so you dont harm the motor.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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honestly I would go for a LHT intercooler from LHTPERFORMCE.NET . If they still make the intercooler for my M45 , I would get one.
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Earlier this year i contacted LHT and they said yes they do make them but unlike the b series unit they are made by hand so it would take time. Then a couple months ago someone else contacted them and they said they no longer offer it. I have never got back with them so I cant confirm this.
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I have 2000 supercharged prelude running on 6psi and i noticed quite a big difference and mine wasnt even fine tuned with the Snow Performance Boost Cooler. I went from actually a 14.6 to a 14.1 1/4 mile time. And that was just installing the kit. I got mine coming on as soon as i reach 95% throttle....I plan on tuning it this fall, i have the 9psi pulley just installed with crome so i can better tune it....
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:43 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:40 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I have 2000 supercharged prelude running on 6psi and i noticed quite a big difference and mine wasnt even fine tuned with the Snow Performance Boost Cooler. I went from actually a 14.6 to a 14.1 1/4 mile time. And that was just installing the kit. I got mine coming on as soon as i reach 95% throttle....I plan on tuning it this fall, i have the 9psi pulley just installed with crome so i can better tune it....
wtf are you talking about?
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I understand what he is talking about maybe you should learn more about W/M inj systems
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I understand what he is talking about maybe you should learn more about W/M inj systems

i know how w/mI kits work. but his grammar is all fucked up and its hard to make out what hes trying to say
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LOL! Grammar? This is the internet! You cant even put in proper punctuation or capital letters.


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