Integra GSR NOS Plate System Installed - Honda Forum / Acura Forum

NationsMostWanted · 01-21-2003, 01:48 AM

after about 2 days work with a total of about 20 hours the GSR plate system is finally in. only thing we werent able to do was put the back intake manifold bracket back together perfectly. we only got the bottom part of the bracket bolted down so the crancase breather wont fall off. but we left the top of the manifold brackets with no bolts holding but to insure it safely we tighten the bolts on the manifold itself tight. the long bolts should hold good enough. but yea on our test run we jetted the system with the 75 shots and damn it pulled. burning out 1st and 2nd like nothing and when 3rd kicked in the car started to fly. it was quick....hopefully soon ill be running the 100 shots jetting. no signs of detonation with the 75 shot. the timing and plugs were left as is since i used to run a 70 shot dry system.

anyone thinking of buying a dry sytem mines for sale just give an offer.

bseriesracer · 01-21-2003, 01:57 AM

yo i gotta 99 civic gsr, its got a 94 jspec, jdm 4-1, skunk 2 manifold bored out to 70, 70 mm str throttle body, b and m fuel pressure regulator, aem cold air intake, ctr intake cam, and aem adjustable cam gears. No cat, power steering, ac, or cruise control, baseline of 179.4 with cam gears set to 0 degrees, im getting my v-afc intstalled next week to along with my cam gears tuned, hoping to get 190 plus at the wheels. then after than i might hook up a dry system, no shure what shot but i hope to hit low 12s on mickey tompsons with a 50 shot, not shure if my cam is suitable so i might stay all motor cause all motor is better anyway, just cheaper to fly with nos

NationsMostWanted · 01-21-2003, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by bseriesracer
yo i gotta 99 civic gsr, its got a 94 jspec, jdm 4-1, skunk 2 manifold bored out to 70, 70 mm str throttle body, b and m fuel pressure regulator, aem cold air intake, ctr intake cam, and aem adjustable cam gears. No cat, power steering, ac, or cruise control, baseline of 179.4 with cam gears set to 0 degrees, im getting my v-afc intstalled next week to along with my cam gears tuned, hoping to get 190 plus at the wheels. then after than i might hook up a dry system, no shure what shot but i hope to hit low 12s on mickey tompsons with a 50 shot, not shure if my cam is suitable so i might stay all motor cause all motor is better anyway, just cheaper to fly with nos

i wouldnt say its cheaper...but yea i like ur setup though and i wanna run mine at the tracks to see what kind of numbers i could put down. hope for a good low 13 and ill be satisfied for now

bseriesracer · 01-21-2003, 02:05 AM

wut kind of times have u hit all motor?

NationsMostWanted · 01-21-2003, 02:06 AM

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Originally posted by bseriesracer
wut kind of times have u hit all motor?

never timed it but my all motor runs suck with my 4 degree retard on my motor. so my powers isnt all that good without nitrous.

sweet · 01-22-2003, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by asianpride559
never timed it but my all motor runs suck with my 4 degree retard on my motor. so my powers isnt all that good without nitrous.

sounds like you need to buy my MSD retard box with 1-5 degree pills so your N/A performance doesn't suck so much!

so anyhow, the kit is working fine for you? no other problems incountered?

yeah the tires will burn off real easy, even in 2nd gear at times.
watch the redline carefully cause it can get away from you. :eek:

100 shot gets sick, but make sure you got enough ignition retard/stronger ignition system and a 255LPH pump.

domi · 01-24-2003, 12:15 AM

hell yeah, 3rd pulls so hard. hehe i remember when i first hooked up my heater, got it to 900 psi, then went for a test run. floored in 1st, BAAHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHhh. holy shiet i almost pissed in my pants that day :eek:

sweet · 01-24-2003, 12:47 PM

i remember the days... it wasn't too long ago.

i get to sit here piecing my turbo setup together and you guys get to have all the fun! it just isn't fair!

:

oh well in time i'll be fast again...

MDteg · 01-24-2003, 01:24 PM

What's up guys, I have the plate system in my 94 GSR as well. It took me a while to install it also. I recently went to the dyno to check things out and with the 100 shot pills I put down 215 wheel horsepower and 210 torque at the wheels. I was a little dissapointed because I thought the horsepower would be higher. I just ordered a new clutch because my current clutch (stock) was slipping on the dyno during the 4th gear pull. Do you guys think I got a bad bottle fill or is this normal?

sweet · 01-24-2003, 08:37 PM

bottle psi makes a huge difference, as well as the exhaust sizing.

if the bottle pressure is really low (500-700 psi) then you won't be injecting the 100 shot of N2O which kills performance, but on top of that you'll also be running too much fuel which bogs the motor down. so it's a double negative.

also if the ignition timing is pulled back too much you'll lose power.

cam timing will increase or decrease HP and TQ so play with those if you have them. advance on the EX. cam helps with N2O.

there are other areas to, do you have a sufficient flowing fuel pump? a stronger ignition system for the higher shot?

you don't want a lean condition, especially with stock internals if that's what you're using currently.

MDteg · 01-27-2003, 02:45 PM

Thanks for the reply.

My bottle pressure was at 900 psi, the intake cam is at the stock setting, my exhaust cam is adjusted a couple of degrees although off the top of my head I do not remember which way. I can tell you that with the way the exhaust cam is adjusted it makes a little more mid-range power when not using the bottle, according to the dyno graph.

I have the Jacobs Nitrouse Mastermind so the timing was pulled back between 4-6 degrees just to be on the safe side. Also my whole ignition and fuel system has been upgraded so there are no problems there. I have the JDM 4-1 DC sports header with high-flow cat and greddy evolution exhaust. Bottom end is all stock as far as I know, I bough the car less then a year ago with about 95,000 miles on it at the time of purchase.

My air/fuel ratio looked very good on the dyno when using nitrous. It leaned out very little up top, but that can be corrected by turning up my fuel pressure a little when I go to the track.

I have yet to run the 100 shot at the track. When I do I should have my clutch in by that time, hopefully. I have not even got a chance to test the 100 shot yet even on a empty road for a real quick burst just to see how it feels. I live in maryland and am currently in school in Allentown PA, so I would rather not screw anything up till I get home for spring break.

Sorry for such a long post.

sweet · 01-27-2003, 05:16 PM

nice setup, it's kinda like my setup but i don't have the N2O system anymore.

it sounds like the EX. cam is advanced a bit, which is good.
when i advanced my EX. cam to 2 degrees it made a difference N/A and on the bottle.

be careful with the 100 shot on stock bottom end.

BTW i'm from Allentown, PA, around Allentown and Easton mostly.
some racing here and there but it's cold out and my car isn't running the best right now.

later

PM-Performance · 01-28-2003, 01:36 PM

yea that hp and tq kinda suck . . . for what the set up is . what was the a/f looking like thru the band ?
i know when i hd my wet kits playing with the fuel made big diferences. so thtas a thing to check and dont waste your time with 900degrees ,. jack it to 1k and try it . also that much timing retard isnt always needed. see how the fuel is though with the other things i listed if that looks good just start advancing the ignition to see how she reacts, i think youll be suprised.
shit i did like 230 to the wheels on my 60 shot dry . i forget the tq i think it was like 190 ish \never dynoed with the 80 wet or 100 dp , but assuming i was pretty damn close to 300 whp with the direct port.

MDteg · 01-28-2003, 01:50 PM

Thanks for the input. I definatly need to try and rework things next time I get home.

itr206: With 1000 psi will I have to up the fuel a little or should there not be that much of a difference?

sweet: did you ever run your nitrous setup at the track? In the fall me and a few friends of mine up here at school went to Island Dragway in N.J. a few times. Do you have a track you go to? If I am not mistaken Dr. Drew (his screen name) who helped one of my friends do an engine swap lives around the Easton area as well, do you know him?

Thanks Again, Paul

PM-Performance · 01-28-2003, 02:07 PM

just up the pressure and see where the a/f stands, it sounds like to me that your running rich and killing your power. so try it 1st with more pressure and see where the a/f is , if still rich then down it a jet size. and see where its at . . . . rememeber the leaner you are the most hp you will make. just dont get it to the point where it liable to blow from being too lean