MSD 6 Series in a d16z6 - Honda Forum / Acura Forum

east_ky_teg_sol · 02-04-2003, 04:52 AM

Can I run any type of 6 series MSD on my d16?
I want to use it with a timing retard for my nitrous.... and i want the holeshot limiter too..... what ignition is that? 6al?

sweet · 02-04-2003, 12:21 PM

you basically can run the MSD 6 units and retard controls on any Honda motor, D, B, H, and F series. and most of the coils too.
hookup is pretty easy.

HLHIII · 02-04-2003, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by east_ky_teg_sol
Can I run any type of 6 series MSD on my d16?
I want to use it with a timing retard for my nitrous.... and i want the holeshot limiter too..... what ignition is that? 6al?

digital 6+ has all of those features

sweet · 02-05-2003, 12:57 PM

the Digital 6 + is prolly the best MSD unit to get since it has all those features.

PM-Performance · 02-05-2003, 02:40 PM

clse but not the best, see the dig 7 yet? its got a few more goodies, its tight, but not for tight wallets. its pretty costly.

sweet · 02-05-2003, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by itr206
clse but not the best, see the dig 7 yet? its got a few more goodies, its tight, but not for tight wallets. its pretty costly.

yeah i've read about the 7 series stuff, really nice but most of it is too much for me. the 6 series stuff is the best for a tighter budget. 6A, 6AL, SCI, Digital 6+ and some other misc. MSD items are good for a normal budget, for a street car.

oh yead BTW are you coming over here this w/e or next?
i remember Jeff saying something about that.

later

PM-Performance · 02-06-2003, 12:55 PM

yea im coming up Sat at like noon . he's gonna meet me at Leh V mall and ill follow him from there to get to his house or wherever we're doing this at
You gonna be around ?

Toddnos · 02-06-2003, 04:06 PM

Whats the cost of the 6al?

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HLHIII · 02-06-2003, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by itr206
clse but not the best, see the dig 7 yet? its got a few more goodies, its tight, but not for tight wallets. its pretty costly.

true but most people on here don't need all of the functions on the 7. the 6 will suit most needs

sweet · 02-07-2003, 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by itr206
yea im coming up Sat at like noon . he's gonna meet me at Leh V mall and ill follow him from there to get to his house or wherever we're doing this at
You gonna be around ?

yeah i'll be around in the afternoon. the mall is only 15 minutes from my house so maybe i'll meet both of you there around noon.

i'll talk to Jeff tonight about it and get some details.

later

sweet · 02-07-2003, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by Toddnos
Whats the cost of the 6al?:

i think you can get it for $125-150 new. the SCI is a bit more.
SS coil is about $40-50, cap is roughly $30 and the Digi 6+ is about $300.

east_ky_teg_sol · 02-12-2003, 06:12 AM

The sci says 6al on it......
if a stock SCI is a 6al unit shouldn't it have soft touch built in?
can i use a retard unit with it?

sweet · 02-12-2003, 11:24 AM

the SCI is basically the newer version of the 6A unit. the 6A comes also in a 6AL version which includes the soft-touch revlimiter. the SCI can also come with the revlimiter option.

you can use the SCI or 6A units with a standard retard unit, or the Digial 6+ which has most of those features built in already.
if you have the SCI or 6A and need to retard timing under boost or during N2O injection, then you can add different MSD units without any trouble. in most cases you need the main MSD ignition unit (SCI or 6A) in order to add the retard unit.

drgvti · 02-15-2003, 01:24 PM

May someone explain how the retarding device works?I mean,do you have to manually retard the timing before spraying or does it engages at full throttle (or anyway when nitrous is activated) ?

Do you have to already have a diferent ignition system or it can be connected to stock ignition?If running with less timing than required is it dangerous or is it more safe?

sweet · 02-15-2003, 10:35 PM

normally, and in the case of the MSD units, you need to run an ignition box in order to use the retard box. or you can get the Digital 6+ which has most of the features combined into one unit.

the retard controls are usually via pills or a knob to dial it in. the pills are preset so you just plug in the amount of degrees you want. then when you inject N2O and hit WOT the unit gets the signal to retard the determined amount of degrees. they're pretty easy to use.

or you can use the distributor to retard ignition timing. but this can weaken N/A performance depending on the setup.