1996 Honda Accord LX k20 swap

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Alright, let me start of by saying I'm a complete noob.

Okay, now that, that's cleared up. I have always wanted to do a motor swap on my Honda, but never had the know-how or the -want- to really learn what I need, to do it. But, I totalled the front end and now it put me in a spot where I have to do something. So, I figured, if I'm going to upgrade and fix things, I might as well go for the big shots instead of taking what I can get.

I have a full body kit picked out, all that, I'm not worried about that.

The motor I have in there is obviously a piece of crap, for power. It's the simple 4 Cyl, with nothing added on. It has 192,000 miles and runs like a charm... I just don't want to change the valve cover gaskets, or drive it til it really breaks.

So, I was looking into a swap, now that you know my situation, what should I do?

I need to know what approximate money range I'm going to need, I was thinking around $3,000 for everything but from research, that looks to be fairly inaccurate.

If anyone could fill me in on what I -ACTUALLY- need, and where I could find it for the cheapest, point me in the direction, please.

The Honda

Yep. I parked it under a taurus, thanks to the brakes going out/andor/having an air bubble. (They didn't stop me abruptly, they just went to the floor and that's where they stayed)

Let me know, Thanks in advance.

--Brett

PS. I'm reading stickies to see what I can find out on my own, but what approximate price range am I looking at? I'm not seeing any -sites- in particular, to look for parts?

[MortsAccord]

K motors are new and more expensive than H series(usualy) but heres on on e-bay thats reasonable, which makes me question its condition.

eBay Motors: Honda Accord K24 engine motor and transmission (item 220253754216 end time Jul-10-08 06:16:40 PDT)

K series intake/exhaust ports are reverse from what H and F series are so they need more work than swapping from F to H.

Reading the stickies and some stuff online should let you know waht your infor

Skunk2 made a kit for the K series for 93-97 accords i think its around 500-600 bucks. You'll also find ot your going to need a lot more than just the engine and tranny.

happy researching.

[wildwulf]

i wouldnt really recommend the k series for an accord. the engine will cost too much and so will the labor. the h series is better. but if you have the money, i say what the hell go for it. and if your k series swap is a success. post another thread with the update. good luck with your swap!

[2point6]

Originally Posted by MortsAccord

K motors are new and more expensive than H series(usualy) but heres on on e-bay thats reasonable, which makes me question its condition.

eBay Motors: Honda Accord K24 engine motor and transmission (item 220253754216 end time Jul-10-08 06:16:40 PDT)

K series intake/exhaust ports are reverse from what H and F series are so they need more work than swapping from F to H.

Reading the stickies and some stuff online should let you know waht your infor

Skunk2 made a kit for the K series for 93-97 accords i think its around 500-600 bucks. You'll also find ot your going to need a lot more than just the engine and tranny.

happy researching.

No wonder I left this site... still tons of miss-information out there.
I understand that people are "trying" to be helpfull, but when they speak from inexperience all it does is hurt the entire community.

The K24 from the Accord or the TSX (not the K20) can be obtained from importers and local junk yards for around $800 and $2500 respectively. A 5 speed trans can be picked up for around $300, depending on what type you are looking for. These are excellent powerplants, but not the best solution for the 1996 Accord chasis. for simplicity an H22 swap is very easy, but believe it or not a K swap isn't as hard as you might think. If doing something different is what you are after, then look into the Hasport (not skunk2) for a motor mount kit, axles and wiring. This makes the K24 engines nearly a drop in.

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Wow. OK.



This stuff looks like a large project that's well over my spending limit. I don't have a lift, or a mount for taking the motor out or putting a new one back in. I think the best thing I can do right now is stick with the motor I have, and get all new body parts. Then, later on, I'll do the k20 project.

The reason I chose the k20 is because I find it to be a nicer engine than the h series. I've also been told from numerous people, is that the k20 is faster. But, from what it looks like, they're similar, and the k20 is more fit for a civic, or a CRX or something like that.

So, I guess that's what I'm going to do unless I find a cheaper route. Right now it looks like bodily repair is going to be quite a lot. I guess I'll need a new bumper, hood, grille, headlight units, blinker units, and I'm not sure what else...

So if you can help me find a person to come up and install the motor for cheaper, then I'll do it, .

Otherwise, based off of the picture, what do you think I need for repairs?

--Brett

PS. Thanks for the responses.

[MortsAccord]

Originally Posted by 2point6

No wonder I left this site... still tons of miss-information out there.
I understand that people are "trying" to be helpfull, but when they speak from inexperience all it does is hurt the entire community.

The K24 from the Accord or the TSX (not the K20) can be obtained from importers and local junk yards for around $800 and $2500 respectively. A 5 speed trans can be picked up for around $300, depending on what type you are looking for. These are excellent powerplants, but not the best solution for the 1996 Accord chasis. for simplicity an H22 swap is very easy, but believe it or not a K swap isn't as hard as you might think. If doing something different is what you are after, then look into the Hasport (not skunk2) for a motor mount kit, axles and wiring. This makes the K24 engines nearly a drop in.

shoot me for saying skunk2 instead of hasport. Any way you look at it H swap will be about 1/2 the price, and the power they provide will be about the same.

Ya know F series engines are pretty darn cheap, you can just turbocharge it, and if you throw too much boost in it and blow it up, so what? They are the least expensive of the f/h/k series.

Im pretty sure the non tvec head from an F will bolt up with the DSM engine manifolds. For this most people seem to use the F23's.


Since you comment on what is needed to be done to transplant that engine into a 5th gen. check this site for details.

Honda Accord Engine Swap - Tech - Honda Tuning Magazine

[UltraMagneticAL]

Originally Posted by re-lapse

But, I totalled the front end and now it put me in a spot where I have to do something.

whoa whoa whoa...what you need to do is get a new car. this car will never drive the same and will become a hazard to OTHER PEOPLE ON THE ROAD

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Originally Posted by UltraMagneticAL

whoa whoa whoa...what you need to do is get a new car. this car will never drive the same and will become a hazard to OTHER PEOPLE ON THE ROAD

No need for a new car, I have a 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer, I just want to have 2 really nice cars.

--Brett

I think I'll stick with the stock motor and go with the body kit, and later on upgrade the motor. Probably go with the H series, I guess.

[UltraMagneticAL]

really nice cars since when did lancers and accords become really nice cars

but you're missing the point of my post....get the accord off the road. it was totalled in the front end...where steering and 70% of your braking occurs.

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Originally Posted by UltraMagneticAL

really nice cars since when did lancers and accords become really nice cars

I've always thought Accords (When done up with a body kit and a good paint job) are very nice cars. On the other hand, how are Lancers -not- nice cars? http://a782.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...668470de35.jpg

but you're missing the point of my post....get the accord off the road. it was totalled in the front end...where steering and 70% of your braking occurs.

It's not necessarily "Totalled". The car still runs, the brakes need to be fixed and everything else is still operable. It's not a dangerous car to put back on the road. Nothing was really screwed up on it other than body damage, and crushing the grille and radiator. Steering is fine, half shafts are alright, tie rods are fine. So yeah.

-Brett

[UltraMagneticAL]

if the insurance company called it a total loss (which is the only time you should say the car was totalled), then it's unfit for the road. especially older cars because that normally means FRAME damage...which is different than BODY damage.

it won't ever drive the same again....meaning it won't be safe.

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Originally Posted by UltraMagneticAL

if the insurance company called it a total loss (which is the only time you should say the car was totalled), then it's unfit for the road. especially older cars because that normally means FRAME damage...which is different than BODY damage.

it won't ever drive the same again....meaning it won't be safe.

The insurance company didn't have anything to do with fixing my car, so they haven't declared it "totalled".

If you think that it's unfit for the road, what do you recommend me doing to get money out of it? I can't part it out up here nobody will buy the parts. It's too much of a hassle to part it out over ebay, I don't have time to ship things.

I'd like to see a grand out of it, at least.

--Brett

[UltraMagneticAL]

sell it to a junkyard

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Originally Posted by UltraMagneticAL

sell it to a junkyard

I'm fairly certain the junk yards here do not give you money for your car.

I will check it out, though.

Thanks,

Brett

[MortsAccord]

Originally Posted by re-lapse

I'm fairly certain the junk yards here do not give you money for your car.

I will check it out, though.

Thanks,

Brett

Yea they will, just if your looking to get rid of it they wont refuse a "free" car, they usually say "we'll take it off your hands for ya"

Hell if it was that bad you could at least scrap it for junk at a recycling plant and get like 200-300 bucks for it.