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Old 05-11-2008, 09:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Building a supped up H22A

Here's the situation. Im planning on spending 4,000 on the H22 not including the actual purchase of the engine and the cost of swap and labor . Cams, pistons, valves, all that shit to sup it up. I was hoping to get around 250ish from the engine naturally but it will be turboed later. I have a 5th gen accord. I have the funds. The problem is I live Connecticut which makes things a little difficult. There's not a lot of places where they will work on the engine and then swap it out. So I may have to do some traveling or get ready to do some shipping. I was hoping to start early July on building this ultimate 5th gen accord. In the end I want around 500 - 600 on the wheels.
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Making 600 hp on an h22 even boosted with a built setup is a little unlikely, You'll have to get some people that really know what they are doing on this project if your truely serious.

You're going to need to consider your compression ratios when adding a turbo to the vehicle. Try and get some tech specs for race engines that are turbo charged making more HP than what your shooting for, find out who they used to tune their engines. The more research you do before actually building the engine the better your engine is going to be: because you'll know what your doing instead of letting someone just take your money.

More often than not people posting such threads as this end up not building the "monster" they want to.

Making 600 hp reliable without worry of the engine blowing up is fairly difficult, especially with smaller 2.x L engines. The more power it makes the shorter its life span.
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Old 05-11-2008, 01:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sorry I didn't get to finish my whole first post. But now that I think about it 600 is a little much for a 4 cyclinder. I geuss I can settle with 450 which is still more then enough. My real question is how do I get started. Should I order the engine first? Bring it to a mechanic with all the parts and have him install the parts on the engine and swap it in? What happens if I can't find anyone like that? Would I have to buy the engine and ship it out to a company to work on it? I don't know how to get started.

So far for the parts I have a good idea of what I need. AEM engine mangement, 1000 RCC Fuel Injectors and all that trash. Again I don't know how IM going to do this.
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You need to buy the block, get it sleeved and blueprinted. I would try and find someone that you can talk to who does blueprinting, tell them what your interested in building and that you'll order all the parts yourself.

Blueprinting an engine makes it last longer and develops more TQ and HP. It balances the engine essentially.

JE makes great rods and pistons. Theres so much high end shit your going to need to order I'm not going to make a list of it. Theres probably a FAQ already on this forum of the parts list needed for exactly what your building.

450 seems possible, but to get above that on a 4cyln your going to have need really high boost, which requires more exhaust gas, which means your rev range better be able to crank out past 7k. I'm not saying you can only make that much HP with uber high revving engines but thats the nature of a turbocharger. Also things just don't hold together well going that fast so you can break your really expensive engine.

Your asking questions you can get answered by reading information that is readily available on this website and many other sites on the web. Most guys here don't like posting information thats readily available on the net that takes minimal searching.

Anyway you look at it YOU are going to have to go do research and get off your ass to get what you want. Go talk to some local mechanics, I'm sure they can help shed some light your way. Many guys around here that work on cars build their own or know people who do it professionally. I would start with them if I were serious about building an engine and NOT on a Honda forum( no offense to the knowledgeable guys out there! you know who you are! ). Some dork could get on here and give you shitty advice, if a mechanic gave you shitty advice his shop wouldn't be open for very long.

Places to go to talk to some people:
Body shops, Local mechanics, Managers of autoparts stores - the longer they've been into the auto profession the better the chances of them knowing where to go. If you've read for more than 5 hours about engines, as soon as you talk to someone you will know if listening to them is worth your time.

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450 is a lot for a front drive car. before you think about your car and power dreams...take a quick course in physics then come back and we can help you.

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if you dont know many people out in your area start stopping people out in the street when you notice they have a import. and ask them where they get thier work done. shops are all over te place. go to 411.com and type in some keywords and see what pops up
use craigslist.com to see if there is anyone posting things in your area to sell.

or maybe post a new thread in here looking for someone in your area that knows a thing or 2 about imports and is willing to be your gear head
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Old 05-17-2008, 12:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Iat thanks. Hoping to start a thread on my build soon.
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if you are spending 4 grand on a build, i would make sure i know the ins and outs of the engines and performance. everything from how much air to take in all the way to what kind of cooling lines to put on it for ti to stay cool. plan first, then act. otherwise its 4 grand straight to garbage can.
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i dont really know how far 4 grand will take you.....i mean its going to cost you a lot more to even come close to that kind of power at all. i mean just to maximize it. it will cost you that just to order the engine ship it and have it put in.
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4k wont get you up to 450hp homie with atleast 280hp-300hp you could do 12's even 10's if you know how to handle the car, 450hp is hard as shit to drive on a fwd car and to get started with building the motor do some research like the other dude said... looking at other setups that have been done with your engine would be a good place to start... good luck!
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Old 05-24-2008, 03:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I was talking about putting 4 grand on supping up the engine. Like cams, cam gears, valves, the block and stuff like that. But I am going to have up it to 6 -7. In total buying the engine supping it up and then putting it in is probably going to run me 9 - 10k.
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4k wont get you much unless you have your own shop and you have connections.

over a 1/4 of that 4,000 will go into the exhaust setup.

h23vtec is the way to go if you want to build a motor. Whats the point in making it NA when you are going FI in the future?

sounds like one of those hopes and wishes threads.
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450 is a lot for a front drive car. before you think about your car and power dreams...take a quick course in physics then come back and we can help you.

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there are plenty of front wheel drive cars with 400 plus horse power instead of pushing the car its pulling the car; the driver has more control over the car with front wheel drive.


i'm pretty sure the fifth gen accords came with an F series engine why don't you just turbo the stock F series? you will save a lot of money, if something happens to the engine you haven't wasted a bunch of money on one thing for your car, and the F series engines were built very strong i have a 92 accord with 265k miles on it and i have the same compression in each cylinder. but keep us up to date on what ever you do... not a lot of people try to "supe-up" accords. at least not in my area
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there are plenty of front wheel drive cars with 400 plus horse power instead of pushing the car its pulling the car; the driver has more control over the car with front wheel drive.


i'm pretty sure the fifth gen accords came with an F series engine why don't you just turbo the stock F series? you will save a lot of money, if something happens to the engine you haven't wasted a bunch of money on one thing for your car, and the F series engines were built very strong i have a 92 accord with 265k miles on it and i have the same compression in each cylinder. but keep us up to date on what ever you do... not a lot of people try to "supe-up" accords. at least not in my area
lol, when you are spinning...you dont have control.

try going around a corner spinning the tires with a fwd car....watch out for the sand traps.
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