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Old 03-06-2003, 05:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What is the best fuel additive?

What is the best fuel additive? There are so many different types of fuel additives. What is the best type? What is the best brand?
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Old 03-06-2003, 06:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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higher octane racing gas.....i wouldnt add anything off the shelf.....if you wanna up your timing, then you can mix a certain amount of racing gas with regular gas to up the octane a lil.....
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fuel additives are needed to get carbon out of the gas. carbon build up leads to more emmsions...and less performance. there are many out there but onyl a few protect the seals while the other kill the seals in the gas tanks. some people use them with no problem but rarley knwo the risks. i use amsoil PI which is a good formula that cleans out the system and isnt a pure concentrate to not hurt ur seals...another product is lucas fuel additive or someting that one is great. to support my claims i will show u this site this guy did, he is knowledgable.

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...c;f=4;t=000086

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the main study i cannot find. ill find it, it has videos how he did some tests..

bascially he mixed some acid with some cleaner and some gas and burned it to demonstrate combustion...then he looked on it and saw how good i cleaned it up...everyone on that site supports him and really he has really helped my car in every way.

good luck. be our guest and sign on to that site to ask more quesitons about ne thing that deals with lubrication or gasoline
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i don;t usually recommend any additives but seafoam carbon cleaner works really well.
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higher octane racing gas.....i wouldnt add anything off the shelf.....if you wanna up your timing, then you can mix a certain amount of racing gas with regular gas to up the octane a lil.....
NOOOO!!!!!!! higher octane racing gas isn't good for the stock f22/f23 motors!!!!
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Where do you guys buy your seafoam from? What does the bottle look like? I can't find any here
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why do you need a fuel additive? you don't need more octane unless your advancing the timing or have a turbo and want to run more boost.

i use dry gas everyone once in while to the water out and i also throw in some fuel injector cleaner maybe 2 times a year. it may not do nothing, but it's peace of mind.

i stick to good name brand gas since they should have better detergents to keep everything clean and i also run 93 and don't trust the generic gas stations.
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NOOOO!!!!!!! higher octane racing gas isn't good for the stock f22/f23 motors!!!!
hey ultra-whats the reason for that??-ive heard mixed reviews about higher octane gas being good, or bad-im just curious what the reasoning is behind this-i normally put 89 octane in my 95 accord, and find that it runs smoother than when its on 87 octane.
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I really like that site. The information is amazing i found it awhile ago and when i have a question about oil or additives i go there and search.
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hey ultra-whats the reason for that??-ive heard mixed reviews about higher octane gas being good, or bad-im just curious what the reasoning is behind this-i normally put 89 octane in my 95 accord, and find that it runs smoother than when its on 87 octane.
higher octane fuel is harder to ignite which is good to prevent detonation. the problem is f22/f23 motors were not designed to be run on premium fuel, so you can actually hurt performace unless you advance the timing to take advantage of the higher octane.
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Where do you guys buy your seafoam from? What does the bottle look like? I can't find any here
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its the aero can one that u just spray down your throttle body. works wonders.
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Hey! thanks for all the info. The seafoam says you can use it to clean out your intake. do you sugest this? How ofen do you suggest to use it? If higher octane fuel is harder to ignite could i just use new spark plugs. I have new ignition wires, but i dont know if i have the new transformer thing to up the voltage. I bought it used. thanks agian for the feed back.
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Hey! thanks for all the info. The seafoam says you can use it to clean out your intake. do you sugest this? How ofen do you suggest to use it? If higher octane fuel is harder to ignite could i just use new spark plugs. I have new ignition wires, but i dont know if i have the new transformer thing to up the voltage. I bought it used. thanks agian for the feed back.
why do you want to use high octane fuel so badly? you just wanna waste money, or what? changing spark plugs won't help you out either...it's all about the compression in the cylinder. in higher compression motors such as the b-series and h-series vtec motors or turbo'd motors, the fuel and air is subjected to higher pressures within the cylinder. this higher pressure can make the air/fuel ignite (same principle as the diesel engine) but in our gasoline engines, premature detonation is no good. the lower compression motors, such as the f22/f23/j30 motors in our accords, don't like the higher octanes because the fuel then becomes too hard to ignite, and you have to use up some energy to ignite the fuel, which in turn, means lower performance at the wheels where it counts.
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Seafoam

I worked a few turns at a marina, doing some wrenching. Anyways, you can find seafoam at almost any marine parts shop, B/C it's used a lot in high performance 2 strokes. I don't reccomend using it on older, higher milage engines though. carbon does build up in an engine yes... but sometimes it helps a little too. Then again, High Perf. 2 strokes are very sensitive to compression levels. Also, a random side note, now that im workin on airplanes... people are always pulling up in they're honda's askin for AV gas, DON'T do this, unless you want to burn out your cat, and waste fuel. AV Gas is rated under a diffrent set of guidlines and requirements. 100LL is 100 octane, LOW LEAD. asi i said the octane rating is not the same as 100 oc. MoGas. plus 100LL is dyed. save your engine and your CAT, don't waste 2.85 a gallon
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NOOOO!!!!!!! higher octane racing gas isn't good for the stock f22/f23 motors!!!!
he never said what he had unless i missed it.....
i wouldnt put it in the f22 either....i wouldnt use it period unless it was necessary......if he had a turbod h22/23 or something and wanted to up his timing, etc...then mixing some higher octane gas in IS good.....i wouldnt do anything to a bolt on motor.....thats like adding oversized injectors to an engine with just a header......WHY
i mixed it in with a ford 2.3 that needed it at a high boost setting.....runnin around town, i'd simply turn it down and not worry with it.....
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