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Old 11-15-2007, 02:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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so i wanna go all motor, and i have a D16Y8. with mild mods like i/h/e, cam shaft, stage 2 cluch, chip, iridium plugs and wires. how much power would i be making at the wheels. and any ideas for other mods? this is my first D series. Im used to B series. its a lot slower but its gonna be my daily driver and i dont have a lot of money so thats kinda what im looking at
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so i wanna go all motor, and i have a D16Y8. with mild mods like i/h/e, cam shaft, stage 2 cluch, chip, iridium plugs and wires. how much power would i be making at the wheels. and any ideas for other mods? this is my first D series. Im used to B series. its a lot slower but its gonna be my daily driver and i dont have a lot of money so thats kinda what im looking at
maybe 120 to the wheels if you get a really good tune

all the chip is going to do is give you less power and burn more gas.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It won't be that much. to be honest with you try taking out your front passenger seat. YOu'll save some gas since it will be your DD. Did you say you had D16Y8? then you'll probably get as much as bet 10-15 hp to your wheels.
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thats so funny. I almost popped out a tear. all motor d-series best joke ever. only way to get any power out of a d is F/I. if you want all motor get another engine. it costs a few grand to get it any where close to 200whp. so if you want it to go a little faster just piece together a cheap turbo kit, the stock block will hold 225whp with a good tune. or get a nitrous kit
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I helped my buddy build a d16y8 for his ek hatch and all I can tell you is after we were done with the build, right before we put the turbo in we took the car for a drive. With a full performance rebuild (rods pistons crank cams camgears valve springs ported and polished head full exhaust upgraded fuel pump fuel rail just about EVERYTHING you could imagine. We slapped some azenis tires on the front and took it for a run and I was NOT impressed at all. My b18a1 integra just about gave me more of a rush. Then the next weekend we bolted up the t3/t4 turbo and took it out. 5psi STILL not impressed but let me tell you at 17psi I think I really shat myself. We shitted on mustangs camaros srt-4s 350zs with ease. If your sticking with the d series, boost is the way to go my friend, and will be cheaper to get more power.
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You can realistically get close to 130whp out of the y8 with the right mods. However to go past that, you are looking at wild cams, high CR pistons, and an aftermarket ecu.

If its your daily driver, I would spend my money on suspension instead of n/a power... A slow car that handles well is still a lot of fun.
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the y8 engine pushes about 127hp stock. now with your i/h/e, cam, & chip ill bet your pushing about 135 horses.. id look into a lighter flywheel, 8lbs is what i put in my z6. made quite a difference in rpm responsiveness. i also agree with Kommon, get tha traction control you need around corners b/c thats where tha fun really is..
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thats so funny. I almost popped out a tear. all motor d-series best joke ever. only way to get any power out of a d is F/I. if you want all motor get another engine. it costs a few grand to get it any where close to 200whp. so if you want it to go a little faster just piece together a cheap turbo kit, the stock block will hold 225whp with a good tune. or get a nitrous kit
its kinda funny you say that cuz I know someone with 174 hp/132 lb ft
with a high compression d16y8 on pump gas and its a daily driver too. Stock boost will kill your rings in about a year. I had one. you can use nitrous if you like holes in your pistons or spun bearings. just stay stock, anything more high performance will kill your gas mileage.
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its kinda funny you say that cuz I know someone with 174 hp/132 lb ft
with a high compression d16y8 on pump gas and its a daily driver too. Stock boost will kill your rings in about a year. I had one. you can use nitrous if you like holes in your pistons or spun bearings. just stay stock, anything more high performance will kill your gas mileage.

that's good to see but how much other work are you forgetting about that got him to that goal? and how much did he have to spend to get that?

there are plenty of engines that are stock running boost and last longer than a year with no problems. its all in the setup and the tune.

the only reason nitrous would put a hole in your piston is a bad tune, not enough gas or both. which lead to detonation, which actually killed the engine, not the nitrous itself.

spun bearings are characteristic to low oil. many people including myself have done this with a stock engine.
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you need some p29's or pm3's pistons, crower 2 or 3 cam, a good header bisimoto or smsp, and later on if you get more serious look into getting headwork.


all motor d's are great its just stupid people that like to follow the rest and don't have knowledge are the ones that talk down on them.


look at what wil from exospeed and bisi have accomplished over the years with sohc's. it can be done it just takes dedication and not being narrow minded like the rest of the crowd.
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that's good to see but how much other work are you forgetting about that got him to that goal? and how much did he have to spend to get that?

there are plenty of engines that are stock running boost and last longer than a year with no problems. its all in the setup and the tune.

the only reason nitrous would put a hole in your piston is a bad tune, not enough gas or both. which lead to detonation, which actually killed the engine, not the nitrous itself.

spun bearings are characteristic to low oil. many people including myself have done this with a stock engine.

if you have never built an all out allmotor d-series then you shouldn't speak a word. learn how to read and not comment in this thread since no one want to hear about boost in here. its the all motor thread buddy learn to read and stay on topic.
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D-series and allmotor is an oxymoron....just drive teh car man, and enjoy it for what it is.
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not only is it only 1.6 liters...but it's SOHC, and the head design is nothing like the twin cam vtec motors so the volumetric efficiency isn't very high at all.

In other words, it's a lost cause man. Get a b18, h22, or boost the d16
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I helped my buddy build a d16y8 for his ek hatch and all I can tell you is after we were done with the build, right before we put the turbo in we took the car for a drive. With a full performance rebuild (rods pistons crank cams camgears valve springs ported and polished head full exhaust upgraded fuel pump fuel rail just about EVERYTHING you could imagine. We slapped some azenis tires on the front and took it for a run and I was NOT impressed at all. My b18a1 integra just about gave me more of a rush. Then the next weekend we bolted up the t3/t4 turbo and took it out. 5psi STILL not impressed but let me tell you at 17psi I think I really shat myself. We shitted on mustangs camaros srt-4s 350zs with ease. If your sticking with the d series, boost is the way to go my friend, and will be cheaper to get more power.
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increase cyl pressure, you increase all motor output..

put a z6 block on there, with either a stock bottem end, and / or rebuild it and bore it out.
A z6 block and y head will yield you some high compression, mid to high 11's, with a good cam, bolt on and tune you're going to be around 130~140whp, in a civic hatch, thats good for almost 15/14.9's My suggestion tho, if u dont have the money.

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75 shot of gas, u'll ride 13's all day long.


Got a d16y8 around here, with bolt ons, stock cam, stock head/block and a 100shot, ran 13.1's all day on slicks. Food for thought i guess.
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