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Old 09-12-2006, 08:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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got a b18b1, want to beat stock b16

Friends got a civic si with a b16. I have a 92 civic vx with a b18b1. He has intake header exhaust. I have intake exhaust MSD 8.5 wires, remote coil. No cat. I want to beat his ass in a race. No nitrious all motor. What can i do like cams or something ??
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Friends got a civic si with a b16. I have a 92 civic vx with a b18b1. He has intake header exhaust. I have intake exhaust MSD 8.5 wires, remote coil. No cat. I want to beat his ass in a race. No nitrious all motor. What can i do like cams or something ??
If you aren't beating him already, you would put mad cars on him with a set of cams. Crower stage 2 cams are your best bet. White98LS uses them in his i/h/e Integra LS and gets about 185 crank, untuned. Now that there is a group buy, they are a steal at $285, about the price of a cheap header.
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Old 09-22-2006, 04:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If you aren't beating him already, you would put mad cars on him with a set of cams. Crower stage 2 cams are your best bet. White98LS uses them in his i/h/e Integra LS and gets about 185 crank, untuned. Now that there is a group buy, they are a steal at $285, about the price of a cheap header.
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hmm interesting...soo what else do i need to buy, soo that i can install those cams?...i have i/h/e...
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hmm interesting...soo what else do i need to buy, soo that i can install those cams?...i have i/h/e...
A Helms manual. PM me if you want one. It will list all the tools you need to change the cams.
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Old 09-22-2006, 09:25 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I suggest looking into a better tranny possible..??

a gsr or b16 tranny on that ls would help alot.. but lets look at the facts


How deep are your pockets.. then we can give you a better answer...and whoever said anything about crower cams on a ls knows their stuff

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Hes driving a 99 Si and your in a eg with LS. You should be taking him buy a little bit but then agian its the drivers. I would go gsr trany and you would beat him easy. You got an LS bottlle feed that mofo go ask your motor it will say it likes it trust me
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White98LS uses stage 1 cams.

You should already be able to beat him now. If you arent, throw in a GSR tranny, and you definetly will.
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You should already be able to beat him now. If you arent, throw in a GSR tranny, and you definetly will.
Actually mine are Stage 2... Crower 62403.

Even with a stock LS motor you should be very close to beating a B16 car, all other things equal. Won't take cams to beat him if that's all you're looking to do....

What kind of i/h/e do you have? High-flow cat too? With i/h/e you should be at almost the exact same whp and a lot more wtq, although longer gearing. Either way, you shouldn't be having a whole lot of trouble.
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the b16 and b18b don't have the same amount of hp though the b16 has about 170 and the b18b like 142
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Thank you, Captain Obvious... except the B16A has 160hp so I guess nothing is too obvious.
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Really? You use stock valvetrain with stage 2 cams? Wow, i didnt know that was safe.
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Yes Sir, yes it is... although only with a stock redline. There are tons of people doing it and I have yet to hear of any problems. Been ~40k miles on mine like that (76k total) with constant rev-limiter-bouncing autocrosses with no problems either.
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