Where do I start if I want an NA B18C1?

[WVU97GS-R]

Originally Posted by mocha907

turbo but i would get a non vtec head first

a good tuner can tune around vtec. valve overlap is bad for boost which vtec does, but the vtec head outflows the non-vtec head. just get a turbo to compliment the motor and a good tune and he'll run 12's all day at low boost if he has proper tires and suspension.

[mocha907]

Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R

a good tuner can tune around vtec. valve overlap is bad for boost which vtec does, but the vtec head outflows the non-vtec head. just get a turbo to compliment the motor and a good tune and he'll run 12's all day at low boost if he has proper tires and suspension.

judging from the question he sounds like he would probably be better off non vtec w/a cam job though unless he had someone else tune it for him also aftermarket sleeves, connecting rods, pistons, and blockguards. would be a good idea to make your car more reliable.

[WVU97GS-R]

Originally Posted by mocha907

judging from the question he sounds like he would probably be better off non vtec w/a cam job though unless he had someone else tune it for him also aftermarket sleeves, connecting rods, pistons, and blockguards. would be a good idea to make your car more reliable.

if he already has a vtec motor it's not worth trashing it. but for his power goals. a b18b would suffice. they are torque little motors with boost. and they wouldn't be as peaky in boost. i wouldn't even rip into the motor untill i wanted more than 300whp. but stock cams are fine for power. i don't recommend turbo cams unless you are real serious about your build. but judging by his lack of knowledge, i would suggest a journal bearing turbo over a ball bearing turbo.

[mocha907]

Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R

if he already has a vtec motor it's not worth trashing it. but for his power goals. a b18b would suffice. they are torque little motors with boost. and they wouldn't be as peaky in boost. i wouldn't even rip into the motor untill i wanted more than 300whp. but stock cams are fine for power. i don't recommend turbo cams unless you are real serious about your build. but judging by his lack of knowledge, i would suggest a journal bearing turbo over a ball bearing turbo.

i guess i'm just over protective when it comes to boosting my first boost experience sucked i had a guy at a small local shop boost a B16w/ stock internals he had the boost way to high and well let's just say it didn't end well

[WVU97GS-R]

Originally Posted by mocha907

i guess i'm just over protective when it comes to boosting my first boost experience sucked i had a guy at a small local shop boost a B16w/ stock internals he had the boost way to high and well let's just say it didn't end well

that's just stupidity. i would never run more than 8 lbs on any turbo with a b16. properly tuned you can pull 270whp easily at low boost levels. being stupid is a nice way to ventilate your block hehe.

[mocha907]

Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R

that's just stupidity. i would never run more than 8 lbs on any turbo with a b16. properly tuned you can pull 270whp easily at low boost levels. being stupid is a nice way to ventilate your block hehe.

ya i didn't know any better back then and the "mechanic" claimed it was a mistake. but ya throwing a rod isn't fun

[WVU97GS-R]

Originally Posted by mocha907

ya i didn't know any better back then and the "mechanic" claimed it was a mistake. but ya throwing a rod isn't fun

haha that's why i bought a factory boosted car. hehe. people pull 500+whp out of the stock bottem end. :-P damn valvetrains sucks steaming pile of dog penis juice though

[mocha907]

Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R

haha that's why i bought a factory boosted car. hehe. people pull 500+whp out of the stock bottem end. :-P damn valvetrains sucks steaming pile of dog penis juice though

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[bak90]

Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R

i personally would do a compression and leakdown test, and get some cheap used t28 turboor mitsu turbo and make like 260whp and like 200lbs of tq with a good tune.

i've seen 300whp boosted gsr's and wasn't impressed because their response was horrible because they did what every other fanboy does and got a huge ass 420whp t3/t4 turbo to make 260whp with their current setup and lag all over the place.

So a t3/t4 is a bad idea?

[WVU97GS-R]

Originally Posted by bak90

So a t3/t4 is a bad idea?

depends on the trim. get a smaller a/r. alot of people get a huge trim that doesn't even hit until way up top. my boy's si makes 260whp at lik 7 psi, but it doesn't spool till 5 grand

[bak90]

ok cool thanks! what if i didnt get a turbo and just mildly built the motor....What components would you suggest? cams, camgears, valvesprings/retainers, and throttle body?

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