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crx3687 · 07-30-2008, 04:49 PM

When I bought my crx it had some sweet sleeves on it (matrix) haha. of which were installed while utilizing the stock struts by the previous owner. Of course now they are blown and ride quality has gone to lumber wagon. My question is two parts.

1.) It is hard to search for opinions so that is why I decided to thread. Do you guys think that I should just replace the entire setup with a decent damper and spring combination or just replace the dampers?

2.) Previous owner did not install camber kit. I have a dx and have only been able to find camber kits for si's, so my question is will these work on my dx? I have searched within sho and havent been able to find anything. I have also searched google and have not had any luck. If anyone would like to take the time to drop a note I would appreciate it greatly, I just put new rims and spend almost 4 bills on tires so i'd really like to not have to deal with camber wear anymore.

hndacvcsi · 07-30-2008, 06:01 PM

ok first off congrats on actually doing some research on your own, there are many as of late who just act lazy in this field.

now then, what you wanna do since you just bought new rims and tires is take them off for now. you should really look into getting yourself a nice shock/spring setup. you see a camber kit will be useless if your struts are garbage your just gonna bottom out and then you will be cussing cause you fucked up your tires/wheels.

unfortunately i dont believe they make camber kits for the dx but i believe you can get one for the si and modify it to work with the dx(ill look for the article i saw on it), since you need a new suspension set up obviously, tokico and kyb have reasonably priced struts for hondas, and if your happy with your matrix coils then cool, but eibach,skunk2, and tein all have nice lowering springs that have a nice aggressive look for the crx. good luck and happy tuning heeee!!!

hndacvcsi · 07-30-2008, 06:06 PM

Eibach Pro-Alignment Camber Kit 1988 - 1990 Honda CRX L4 1.5 Liters Part#: 5.67320K

correction i found one from eibach if your gonna get one get some of the best

crx3687 · 07-31-2008, 01:33 PM

I was being sarcastic matrix. They suck. If it was me from the start and I was going to spend the 300 bucks or whatever they cost I would have just spent the extra couple hundred and do it right. The other thing that drives me nuts about them is having them be adjustable, Everytime I lower the car down off the jack and get a good look at it, it never seems to be even all the way around. (This is probably because of the blown struts? Or my retardedness?)

I have looked into the tokico and kyb setups and they seem like they are in my price range. I dont want to spend more than a grand including camber kit, springs, and dampers.

Thanks for the link, I searched for a while and no luck. They seem expensive. Please do post link to that article about modifying si ones to work on a dx. I think that with a wider range of companies making products for the si I could pull off doing it on a tighter budget and be okay.

Thanks for the input

drummingpariah · 07-31-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hndacvcsi

now then, what you wanna do since you just bought new rims and tires is take them off for now. you should really look into getting yourself a nice shock/spring setup. you see a camber kit will be useless if your struts are garbage your just gonna bottom out and then you will be cussing cause you fucked up your tires/wheels.

totally agree. Improper lowering will also fuck up your oil pan, exhaust, rear crossmember, and front subframe. If you don't know what those are, just assume they're all important. Struts are extremely important to the suspension system if you're going to modify it.

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Originally Posted by hndacvcsi

unfortunately i dont believe they make camber kits for the dx but i believe you can get one for the si and modify it to work with the dx(ill look for the article i saw on it), since you need a new suspension set up obviously, tokico and kyb have reasonably priced struts for hondas, and if your happy with your matrix coils then cool, but eibach,skunk2, and tein all have nice lowering springs that have a nice aggressive look for the crx. good luck and happy tuning heeee!!!

The dx front suspension is just a mushier version of SI suspension. The same camber kits should fit both. The rear may be different, but only because the trailing arms are different for drum brakes vs disc brakes. If you do get a kit, make sure it will work with drum brakes on the rear (meaning call the support number from the manufacturer).

It sounds like your head is on straight and your priorities are in order. Keep doing the research you're doing, and don't be afraid to ask more questions. Just make sure that you qualify us with what you already know whenever you ask a question. We're good at filling in the blanks.

slow f23 · 07-31-2008, 03:43 PM

pictures of said car? and i'd go coilovers.

crx3687 · 07-31-2008, 04:59 PM

These shots are when I first bought the car so I could see the before and after pics as I work on de ricing this thing.

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k...orinternet.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k...7/000_0106.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k...7/000_0105.jpg

Hope these pics work let me know if I messed it up.

Above shows the gahay 17" Motegi MRM's, and the even gayer taillights. In the past week I have changed out the rims for ls meshies and put new tires on. I took out the euro taillights and put in a set of sir ones. I also replaced the windshield, replaced hack job rice exhaust with stock one and fully welded the joints all the way around, and got a sticker on it.

The interior is currently the same as above Si seats with fosgate deck and short shift.

Only mods really besides replacing oem parts is regrind cam and "intake", motor is d15b2 and currently Im enjoying the gas mileage while fuel prices are getting rediculous. My plan is to fix the suspension for a fun car to drive and ponder building the block I recently purchased (b18b1). or find an a6 to swap in and call it a day. Altough my next biggest hurdle and infact the greatest hurdle probably with this car will be converting to mpfi

Camera is dead but I will take pics of car tomorrow if you wanna see it how it sits now.

HonduhDave · 07-31-2008, 05:27 PM

Glad you got rid of the rims and taillights. As far as whether to replace the dampers alone or replace the dampers and springs; I'd opt for both, especially if you don't like the sleeves you have on there now. As for the camber kit, the advice I've heard most often is to install the suspension and get an alignment beforehand. Then, if the camber is off by more than you want you can go ahead and buy a camber kit, install it, and realign it. Depending on how low you go, the camber/caster might not be off enough to make it necessary. If you look in the suspension thread there is a sticky I found quite helpful as far as suspension theory and quality places to buy parts. Whatever you decide, best of luck in putting together a clean old school Rex

solsykness · 07-31-2008, 05:33 PM

dont cheap out on a coilover set up though. I got me some ebay pos' for the summer, but that's just bc I wanted the slammed look. I was planning on getting a full setup b4 winter hit, but I think I will just buy them over winter and throw them on in the spring. If you need them asap, don't wait much too long to get it done.

crx3687 · 07-31-2008, 05:34 PM

I understand some of the consequences of what can happen with ill informed people trying to lower cars. I try to drive it as little as I can untill it is fixed, thankfully I have another car to drive.

Which leads me to kind of an off topic question I have wondered for a while. Has anyone heard of a 20 yr old unibody car like a crx "splitting" in half?

solsykness · 07-31-2008, 05:40 PM

Also, I'm not 100% sure whether the camber kits are actually needed in all situations, but as long as you don't SLAM the piss out of your car, you won't need them. I never have bothered with them, and I have always had decent tread wear on a nice 2-3in. drop.

hndacvcsi · 07-31-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by solsykness

Also, I'm not 100% sure whether the camber kits are actually needed in all situations, but as long as you don't SLAM the piss out of your car, you won't need them. I never have bothered with them, and I have always had decent tread wear on a nice 2-3in. drop.

this is of course true as well. if your looking to tuck rim on meshs then yeah you need a camber kit(and a cone so you wont lick the windows), but if you just lower it to say, the top of the tire (maybe a cunt hair lower), you most likely wont need a camber kit.

BUT, i say if your gonna do the full set-up just get it anyway. this is my opinion but i will get critisized for it- Tokico illumina 5-ways, eibach sportlines, and camber kit. since your in the area put rear disk brakes on it too

crx3687 · 08-01-2008, 03:05 PM

what makes you say to spread out companies? Wouldnt I want get a kit all from one company where all components were engineered to work together?

Also I dont want to slam the piss out of it because the look Im going for is just clean with a moderate drop like what you said "top of the tire (maybe a cunt hair lower)"

here are the pics as promised.

crx3687 · 08-01-2008, 03:08 PM

As you can see some body work does need to be done in the near future. But im not as lucky as alot of you people out west. Here in new england it is so hard to find a crx let alone an si. Especially that hasnt been hacked to shit and doesnt have rust.