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hndacvcsi · 07-16-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by anassa

270whp.. dang dude.. thats pretty crazy.

I'd be happy with 180 or so

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btw, i demand part pics and installation pics when it comes around.

i second the pics thing. a nice write-up is always appreciated by the people who actually care. as for the 240, yes it had 270 all at 2500 rpm's. it was fucking sick

EnJoiThaRex · 07-18-2008, 08:23 PM

I am looking for real specs, not just manufacturer specs. So if anyone has any of this info or knows a reliable source that would be great..

Turbo D16 • View topic - FAQ: D16 Engine Specifications

-A6 compression ratio (most sources say about 9.1/1, seems correct)

-Cylinder Head ccs <--A6 seems the highest wth 38 according to turbo D, anyone beg to differ?

So I'm looking around and i found that z6 pistons will lower my compression a bit, well by 1 anyway. So more boost from a nice size turbo (definitely something larger than a T-25 now) is looking pretty good right now. But is the CR too low? According to this site SolBlu's Helpful Del Sol Site i will be at 8.1 to 1 with the a6 head. Seeing how the rod and the stroke are the same, the difference between these two is the dish in the head of the pistons (hope it includes valve reliefs). So basically this would be my bottom end.

Tell me what you think of this setup, the next step is to then calculate the top end.

hndacvcsi · 07-18-2008, 08:57 PM

8.1 is the right ratio, but the problem is that your still using stock honda parts, and while the d-series is almost un-blowable, the insides are still not forged. my advice is if you really wanna run a high boost motor, keep what you got now, buy a d16y8 on ebay and start building on the side. in the long run you will spend less

anassa · 07-18-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hndacvcsi

8.1 is the right ratio, but the problem is that your still using stock honda parts, and while the d-series is almost un-blowable, the insides are still not forged. my advice is if you really wanna run a high boost motor, keep what you got now, buy a d16y8 on ebay and start building on the side. in the long run you will spend less

why y8, z6 all the way IMO. you see a lot more of them boosted and making good power.

not sure if its been mentioned.. but check out Turbo D16 • Index page

they have all the info you will ever need on boosting a D.

EnJoiThaRex · 07-19-2008, 08:41 AM

i forgot to mention they would be after market

http://www.exospeed.com/category.php?id=263 <,--top set. They are smaller and lighter
The specs say they would be at 9:1 but its not using the a6 head.

EnJoiThaRex · 07-19-2008, 08:53 AM

^^ using these aftermartket pistons and the above calculator, the ratio bumps up 8.2 to 1 but its still good

hndacvcsi · 07-19-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by anassa

why y8, z6 all the way IMO. you see a lot more of them boosted and making good power.

not sure if its been mentioned.. but check out Turbo D16 • Index page

they have all the info you will ever need on boosting a D.

i only say a y8 because typically they have less mileage. i really see no major differences between the y8 and the z6. i have no beef with the z6. my 91 rex mini-me was a a6/z6 combo and it was almost bulletproof

jordan_myers · 07-19-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hndacvcsi

= as for the 240, yes it had 270 all at 2500 rpm's. it was fucking sick

One of my buddies at work has a sr20det with built internals and boost controller and he's pushing 450whp, he's setting it up for drifting....

anassa · 07-19-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hndacvcsi

i only say a y8 because typically they have less mileage. i really see no major differences between the y8 and the z6. i have no beef with the z6. my 91 rex mini-me was a a6/z6 combo and it was almost bulletproof

Ya i know i got nothing against the y8, i mean it has the best flowing D series mani after all. But the only thing that i have against it compared to the z6, especially if your boosting, is that the port on the z6 are bigger. It flows better, so its not as restricted.

hndacvcsi · 07-19-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by anassa

Ya i know i got nothing against the y8, i mean it has the best flowing D series mani after all. But the only thing that i have against it compared to the z6, especially if your boosting, is that the port on the z6 are bigger. It flows better, so its not as restricted.

oh i completely see where that is good. as everyone knows after all, modularity is where the best motors come from anyway. an a6 block, z6 head, y8 int man., a d15b vtec solenoid, a zc lsd tranny. thats a fucking motor, and no 2 parts come from any one car. i love that you can do these things.

like another thread i was involved in for an upgraded brake system. Drumming and i were throwing ideas back and forth to a guy about the rear disc conversion, and Drumming mentioned that it will throw the bias of the braking force off. This is fully true, but i mentioned that if you also upgrade to the ls fronts(direct swap), a gsr master and 40/40 splitter, it evened everything out with the braking force

anassa · 07-19-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hndacvcsi

oh i completely see where that is good. as everyone knows after all, modularity is where the best motors come from anyway. an a6 block, z6 head, y8 int man., a d15b vtec solenoid, a zc lsd tranny. thats a fucking motor, and no 2 parts come from any one car. i love that you can do these things.

like another thread i was involved in for an upgraded brake system. Drumming and i were throwing ideas back and forth to a guy about the rear disc conversion, and Drumming mentioned that it will throw the bias of the braking force off. This is fully true, but i mentioned that if you also upgrade to the ls fronts(direct swap), a gsr master and 40/40 splitter, it evened everything out with the braking force

Yup yup yup, thats one thing i love about the D series, fun junkyard builds. Btw you forgot D15b VTEC cam (most aggressive stock cam out there.), P29 Pistons (D16a1) and B18/16 (take your pick) TB's. Oh and then also the newer D17 cranks, i heard their forged, nothing verified though.

One of my hopes is to eventually be able to make a all "stock" motor by just using different D series parts and see how much it makes.

hndacvcsi · 07-19-2008, 07:13 PM

also im hearing alot of buzz on the suzuki grand vitara pistons. they say for a turbo build they are perfect. and they even fit right into the stock bore. weird but also pretty cool also

EnJoiThaRex · 07-27-2008, 11:37 AM

Say i use the D17 crank.I am thinking if its a 1.7, the stroke is probably longer. Meaning i would have to get shorter rods, which in the end, would help my motor become more torquey . Ill look in to those cranks,if anyone has any info stop on by.

Im thinking aftermarktet d15 rods but idk if it is small enough yet i have to look into it. This is only if the crank is actually forged