I'm just pointing out that GTA isn't worth 10's, given it's technical issues and myriad of online fuckups on both systems (the online is far from 'tuned').
Honestly, when you're talking one tenth of a point, just give up the digit. Especially when the entire review (from what I've heard) lacks any mention of MGO at all.
And yes, I'm saying the game deserves 10's. Though, it seems you're taking more offense to my statements about the game than you seem to think I have about the score. I'd gladly ask for any input on a MGS title, or why you would think otherwise about this game, but I don't even think you've completed half of the series yet, so I honestly can't expect anything from you other than off base comment.
Well IGN is somewhat goofy, IMO, as in the GTA IV review they admitted that a 10 did not indicate perfection... plus I'm guessing they didn't get a ton of time with the online. It's whatev though. A 9.9 is a 9.9. IGN doesn't round, they never have, so it's not that big of a deal.
Please refrain from turning the table. Your last point proves absolutely nothing. All I'm saying is that it is ridiculous to chastise a review for a game you have not even played yet... not to mention the reason for your complaint stems from a 9.9 not being a 10. LMAO.
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Thats sweet why dont we get them??
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Because they are trying to make us AMERICANS jealous since we ROCK!
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No, my point is:
They give it a 9.5 for 'lasting appeal' yet make no mention of Metal Gear Online. I haven't read the review myself, because I'm on media blackout, but I hear they make no mention of any online play at all.
Your seriously up in arms because of my point. After all, I never said anything about anything but IGN, and you're like "YOU CANT BE SERIOUS! OMG! LMAO HAHAHA". You're quite a bit more worked up about me questioning IGN, than I am about IGN's review.
You honestly just hate to see anyone try to question anything that's not Nintendo / Microsoft related don't you? Cute.
They give it a 9.5 for 'lasting appeal' yet make no mention of Metal Gear Online. I haven't read the review myself, because I'm on media blackout, but I hear they make no mention of any online play at all.
Your seriously up in arms because of my point. After all, I never said anything about anything but IGN, and you're like "YOU CANT BE SERIOUS! OMG! LMAO HAHAHA". You're quite a bit more worked up about me questioning IGN, than I am about IGN's review.
You honestly just hate to see anyone try to question anything that's not Nintendo / Microsoft related don't you? Cute.
No, do not twist this. It has nothing to do with any other company or game system. I even agreed with you that IGN's ratings don't always make sense. What's ridiculous is you are literally making a fuss over a 9.9 not being a 10. Then, you go on to say the game deserves a 10, despite the fact that you haven't played it. "Cute." Don't suggest others of being slanted when you yourself are one of the most biased people ever to set foot in this forum.
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Because they are trying to make us AMERICANS jealous since we ROCK!
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Right, so they can give the game a 9.5 for 'lasting appeal' without mentioning any multiplayer at all...but it's odd for me to question that?
That's like giving Giving Halo 3 10's across the board, but docking it points for lasting appeal without mentioning the online at all.
Granted, I haven't read the review, but the folks on GAF that I talk to say the review makes no mention of any online component, only single player. It's questionable, there's no if ands or buts about it.
You're just questioning me because you want to keep up the good fight. I applaud you.
Right, so they can give the game a 9.5 for 'lasting appeal' without mentioning any multiplayer at all...but it's odd for me to question that?
That's like giving Giving Halo 3 10's across the board, but docking it points for lasting appeal without mentioning the online at all.
Granted, I haven't read the review, but the folks on GAF that I talk to say the review makes no mention of any online component, only single player. It's questionable, there's no if ands or buts about it.
You're just questioning me because you want to keep up the good fight. I applaud you.
The funny thing is, whenever your fan boy attitude comes back in full force, and I say something in regards to it, you attempt to turn the situation around so that I am the one who appears to be riled up, when in reality the only one getting defensive is yourself.
Your issue stems from the fact that you believe the game deserves a 10 in lasting appeal, in turn you are upset IGN gave it a 9.5, and that the review lacks the justification for this score? Just an FYI, this doesn't necessarily mean MGO wasn't taken into account... Anyways, if there would have been a paragraph directed towards MGO, but the lasting appeal still remained a 9.5, would you be any less upset? No, because this is your holy grail of games and you are unwilling to accept anything less than a perfect score.
It's clear as day man. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. You are angry over a 9.9... and go on to say the game deserves a 10, despite the not so mundane fact that you have yet to play it. You get extremely irate when anyone disagrees, and it extends beyond the digital walls of SHO. You seem to get pretty upset on GAF as well. Check your blood pressure lately? Take a frickin' chill pill dude, seriously.
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Because they are trying to make us AMERICANS jealous since we ROCK!
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Actually I'd be cool with it if they mentioned MGO. But they didn't. It's cool that you can read my mind though!
Either way, I get it, MGS4 isn't your type of game, not enough chainsaws and space aliens (with ridiculous colors). You can keep that to yourself, I prefer games with substance to them, you know, good music, story, presentation, those things that none of the games you like have.
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Just got straight 10's in Famitsu, making the total number of games to reach their 'best games' 8. The last two were SSBB and Final Fantasy XII.
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Looks like IGN AU carry's on the tradition of stupidity. No mention of MGO in the review, and an 8.5 for lasting appeal.
Then in the comments they say:
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Metal Gear Online or not, we came for the single-player game. We got just enough to balance out the cutscenes. There is definite replayability to be had, if you're passionate.
Pathetic. And the media wonders why Konami asked them to keep their traps shut.
Actually I'd be cool with it if they mentioned MGO. But they didn't. It's cool that you can read my mind though!
Either way, I get it, MGS4 isn't your type of game, not enough chainsaws and space aliens (with ridiculous colors). You can keep that to yourself, I prefer games with substance to them, you know, good music, story, presentation, those things that none of the games you like have.
This post does not even deserve a response. You are not arguing anything, you are simply attacking what is my taste in video games, pathetically attempting to insult me.
But I should probably learn my place, considering I obviously do not enjoy, "good music, story, presentation," you know, all the things that "my games" don't have.
Like I said earlier, you are going to love the game, so why are you worrying so much about reviewer X giving the game a 9.9, and reviewer Y giving it a 9.5? After all, you must realize these are opinions. Although I find it odd you are trying to somehow disprove these scores (under the circumstances that you do not have the game in your possession), in the end if the game is a 10/10 for you, that's all that matters.
As for everything else, I believe my previous posts can sustain my position on the argument, no need to regurgitate anything else.
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Because they are trying to make us AMERICANS jealous since we ROCK!
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And if Halo 3 was reviewed without any consideration for the Online mode...and was scored less as a result, you wouldn't think it's bullshit? It's amatuer journalism is what it is.
If someone reviewed a movie, but only reviewed it based on it's special effects and not it's story, you wouldn't think that's bullshit?
If someone were to give a 'review' of a Car, but only talked about the interior of it, and ignored performance, gas mileage, etc, you wouldn't think it was bullshit?
You cannot review HALF of a product. That is my point.
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I don't know if I mentioned this already, but the OST is amazing.
And if Halo 3 was reviewed without any consideration for the Online mode...and was scored less as a result, you wouldn't think it's bullshit? It's amatuer journalism is what it is.
If someone reviewed a movie, but only reviewed it based on it's special effects and not it's story, you wouldn't think that's bullshit?
If someone were to give a 'review' of a Car, but only talked about the interior of it, and ignored performance, gas mileage, etc, you wouldn't think it was bullshit?
You cannot review HALF of a product. That is my point.
That is a good point, unfortunately, you are exaggerating the importance of MGO. Simply put, MGO is not half the game... what you also have not considered is what if said reviewer did not care for MGO? The overall score would surely reflect this, and I'm sure you wouldn't be too happy. At this point it seems you are assuming the consideration of MGO would no doubt raise the score...
Anyways, in the end I do agree. MGO should be included in the review, it's dumb that is wasn't, but oh well. Like I said, at the end of the day, if MGS4 is a 10/10 in your book (which you have already confirmed despite not having the game), then who cares what [insert publication X here] review said?
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Thats sweet why dont we get them??
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Because they are trying to make us AMERICANS jealous since we ROCK!
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That is a good point, unfortunately, you are exaggerating the importance of MGO. Simply put, MGO is not half the game... what you also have not considered is what if said reviewer did not care for MGO? The overall score would surely reflect this, and I'm sure you wouldn't be too happy. At this point it seems you are assuming the consideration of MGO would no doubt raise the score...
Anyways, in the end I do agree. MGO should be included in the review, it's dumb that is wasn't, but oh well. Like I said, at the end of the day, if MGS4 is a 10/10 in your book (which you have already confirmed despite not having the game), then who cares what [insert publication X here] review said?
Surely the inclusion of MGo would warrant at LEAST a half a point
I mean, even if you absolutely hate it, I can't see it not being worth half of a freaking point.
I just find it both silly and amatuer to either not mention it at all, and then score the game a 9.9, or mention it, and say you won't even include it in your review, because you only care about the Single Player.
It's unacceptable, and unfair to the consumer.
I honestly think this is a result of the massive amount of 10's the media incorrectly handed out for GTA IV.
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