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03-03-2008, 07:30 PM
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Conclusion: Democrates are Bad People
by definition
GOOD
good - Definitions from Dictionary.com
SELFISH
selfish - Definitions from Dictionary.com
ALTRUISTIC
altruistic - Definitions from Dictionary.com
All People are Selfish
People are all selfish. People constently make decisions in their lives to "feel" good. Those "feelings" lead the people to make decisions over and over. The decisions they make can lead them to making more money, working out, helping others, etc....but basically they are doing it for the "feeling"....to "feel" good. so all actions people do are selfish.....ALL of them. If their action doesn't "feel" good....and makes them feel bad, they stop doing that action.
Good People are selfish and Altruistic
Good people are selfish....and do so in a way that can benefit others....or do so in a respectful way to not hurt others. They bring positive contributions to society, they help others become wealthy, they help others become more healthy, etc. Good people benefit everyone, and themselves.
Bad people are selfish and gain at the cost of others
Bad people are people who have something to gain at the cost of others. They want to gain at the mercy of society or other people. They want money dispite giving positive contributions to the health of others, or the economic benefit of society. They could be rude, disrespectful, etc.
hence
All people are selfish
good people are selfish and altruistic
bad people are selfish and gain at the cost of others
Democrats tax the snot out of everyone. They most importantly target the rich and large corporations and assign hefty taxes on those while giving grants and subsidies to people who are "less fortunate".
This in itself is not being altruistic.....they are bad people who are selfish and gain at the cost of others. Those who vote democratic are also bad people...because they are being selfish and have something to gain at the cost of others.
while "wealthy or rich" people are good people. They contribute to society and offer jobs to people, they offer people money and good health. They don't take from anyone....and the people working for them agree to get paid the wage they have.
Basically this society is hurting all the "good" people??? and letting the "bad" people win? Are we that BAD?
My question to eveyone is.......Why is it so bad that the rich get to keep the money they worked for?
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03-03-2008, 07:56 PM
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My question to eveyone is.......Why is it so bad that the rich get to keep the money they worked for?
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Because it's a panacea for the ultimate we/they, have/havenot dichotomy that can be applied to just about ANY situation - thus it makes a perfect political tool. Encite the nonwealthy citizenry against the wealthy minority, and you'll have enough votes to put yourself in power.
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03-03-2008, 09:11 PM
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03-04-2008, 03:03 PM
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Because it's a panacea for the ultimate we/they, have/havenot dichotomy that can be applied to just about ANY situation - thus it makes a perfect political tool. Encite the nonwealthy citizenry against the wealthy minority, and you'll have enough votes to put yourself in power.
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I agree....completely.
So how do we stop it?
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03-04-2008, 03:11 PM
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I thought it was gonna be one of those "Studies show that..." type articles. 
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03-04-2008, 03:37 PM
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I agree....completely.
So how do we stop it?
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Hire them. Yea rich people get taxed and they should be able to keep their money, but what you fail the mention when you talk about this shit is how when people get some money, they get all greedy and stingy like no one helped them make it. The company I work for is a good example, the top/founders make a shit load of money annually, yet when I ask for a raise I get insulted with the offer, even though I have a key role in the operation of this place, yet they fail to see that or are blinded because they don't want to share and help bring the rest of us WHO HELP along for the ride.
I know this shit happens all over, people who make the money think the people who make the profits possible are expendable or replace able and any monkey can do it so why should I pay you more? The same thinking is in action when companies send the jobs to other countries because the labor is cheaper, and then fuck their fellow peers, so they can make more money, even if said peers got the company to the point where it was profitable.
Thats the fucking problem, the greed gets to people and they shit on others. Help your fellow man, you don't have to give him free shit but give them the opportunity to get theirs too. If people who have made it would share the opportunities of success there wouldn't be so many people bitching demanding handouts and politicians campaigning on wealth redistribution.
Many of these rich people got hooked up somewhere along the line by a friend or peer who, put them in the position to rise. A referral, letter of recommendation, ect. Self made wealth is rare, just like finding an awesome job randomly is rare, it's all about social networking and hook ups, yet when people "make it" they act like they didn't have help..... 
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03-04-2008, 06:15 PM
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Hire them. Yea rich people get taxed and they should be able to keep their money, but what you fail the mention when you talk about this shit is how when people get some money, they get all greedy and stingy like no one helped them make it. The company I work for is a good example, the top/founders make a shit load of money annually, yet when I ask for a raise I get insulted with the offer, even though I have a key role in the operation of this place, yet they fail to see that or are blinded because they don't want to share and help bring the rest of us WHO HELP along for the ride.
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I'm not trying to be a dick, but if you truly are 'key to the operation of this place', then you shoul dbe asking for a promotion, instead of a raise. If you're just a really good line worker and all you want is a raise, you're not going to get it. If you're a really good line worker and you want to be in charge of operations, then ask for a promotion. It'll help you climb the ladder and it'll expand your skillset, making you less replaceable. Raises are for people who never want to improve their station in life.
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I know this shit happens all over, people who make the money think the people who make the profits possible are expendable or replace able and any monkey can do it so why should I pay you more? The same thinking is in action when companies send the jobs to other countries because the labor is cheaper, and then fuck their fellow peers, so they can make more money, even if said peers got the company to the point where it was profitable.
Thats the fucking problem, the greed gets to people and they shit on others. Help your fellow man, you don't have to give him free shit but give them the opportunity to get theirs too.
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The US has a capitalist free market economy, your birth certificate is your official invitation to get yours. And that's exactly what it means. Go get your own, don't expect someone who's spent their lifetime building wealth to just hand it out to you for a minor role.
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If people who have made it would share the opportunities of success there wouldn't be so many people bitching demanding handouts and politicians campaigning on wealth redistribution.
Many of these rich people got hooked up somewhere along the line by a friend or peer who, put them in the position to rise. A referral, letter of recommendation, ect. Self made wealth is rare, just like finding an awesome job randomly is rare, it's all about social networking and hook ups, yet when people "make it" they act like they didn't have help..... 
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Yes, self made wealth is rare; because to become wealthy on your own you have to work your entire life for it. Just ask Warren Buffet, John Schnatter, Sam Walton, or any number of other folks who started from nothing and worked there way into varying degrees of wealth. And you don't have to make millions to be wealthy.
I know a couple guys who run a multi-billion dollar operation, nothing fancy just three or four franchise joints; and they net maybe $300k/yr each. Granted, they're not going to be on the cover of Forbes; but their families are never going to have to go without anything if they stay smart. They didn't do it by working for someone else. They did it by spending years building a business, even when it meant spending the night on the floor of the place because they had no employees and there wasn't enough time between them cleaning up at night and getting ready in the morning to make a trip home worthwhile.
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03-04-2008, 09:42 PM
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ahh my boss owns 5 sonic reastaraunts( no i dont work at sonic, i work for his construction comp ) he pays out the ass on taxes, and unlike what negroD said my boss is a fair guy, and more than happy to do things for us, like take us to lunch, take us to the titty bars, etc... so not all rich ppl are so greedy... and negroD why do you think im not interested in getting the MCSE and all those things we were promised? IT is going down companies liek configuresoft are trying to replace admins with applications....time to find a new career choice
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so fuckin blow those words out the back of your head, ive heard it all and im done with that shit
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03-04-2008, 10:18 PM
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wtf is democrate?
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03-04-2008, 10:35 PM
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No shit, but I have a theory:
1. lOOkatme is a Republican
2. lOOkatme doesn't know how to spell 'Democrats'
3. All Republicans are bad spellers
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03-05-2008, 01:03 AM
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No shit, but I have a theory:
1. lOOkatme is a Republican
2. lOOkatme doesn't know how to spell 'Democrats'
3. All Republicans are bad spellers
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03-05-2008, 02:15 AM
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03-05-2008, 08:50 AM
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I'm not trying to be a dick, but if you truly are 'key to the operation of this place', then you shoul dbe asking for a promotion, instead of a raise. If you're just a really good line worker and all you want is a raise, you're not going to get it. If you're a really good line worker and you want to be in charge of operations, then ask for a promotion. It'll help you climb the ladder and it'll expand your skillset, making you less replaceable. Raises are for people who never want to improve their station in life.
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Sure, I can ask for a promotion, to what I don't know but yea thats a genius idea.
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The US has a capitalist free market economy, your birth certificate is your official invitation to get yours. And that's exactly what it means. Go get your own, don't expect someone who's spent their lifetime building wealth to just hand it out to you for a minor role.
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There is more to capitalism than being an entrepreneur, and it's more along the lines of fuck you, it's all mine, even though you helped me make it, go fuck some people so you can be like me, then come talk to me and we can hang out and share "business strategy and laugh".
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