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Old 09-27-2002, 05:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fox Body Mustang: the Ultimate Cheap Speed Platform?

I've been told that these are the ultimate cars to get for drag racing. they say you buy them for $4-5k and invest $3-4k in mods and you'll have an 11-second car. is this for real? do they swap a V8 in there? then grab some more money and stuff a turbo and then juice, too? this girl PwrAddrPrincess has an 8-second one. Good God! from what I hear, I'd like to pick one up. what're everyone's thoughts?
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Old 09-27-2002, 08:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They're good platforms. I had the option of buying a fox body (87-93) but went with the 94/95 5.0's for a few reasons.

And no swaps. They GT's and some of the Lx's came stock with the 5.0's. You wouldn't have to deal with swaps.

Fox 5.0 potential and pros.

*They're cheap
*have the best aftermarket of any modern day v8/domestic
*Lx's 5.0 comes in at around 29XX-31XXlbs depending on options making them fairly light for a v8 equipped car. With some aluminum and fiberglass aftermarket components the weight could go down farther.
*ran mid 14's stock which is pretty darn good for a 15 year old car equipped with loong 2.73 highway gears. A few bolt ons and free mods can put you into the 13's for cheap.
* easy to work on and relatively cheap to fix since parts are readily available and easy to find. You can't go to a parts store without tripping over 5.0 parts.
* They've got arguably the best sounding exhaust note of any small block v8. Even when stock, they sound mean. Throaty rumble is always music to the enthusiasts ears.
* the stock motor isn't really built to it's true potential. In it's restricted state, it produces 225hp and close to 300lb-ft of tq. Witout stroking or forced induction and by just changing the stock components within the engine(heads, cam, intake, exhaust, etc...), power can go from 225hp to over 400hp N/A.
* They can be stroked out to 355ci from the original 302ci. 500hp+ N/A potential without Forced induction. 331 and 347 stroker kits seem to be very popular. Guys in the NMRA have made 2000+ horse with turboed/Supercharged 347's.
* They have a low compression ratio and the early 90's come with forged pistons which makes them FI friendly. But 12psi would be the limit on the stock engine.
* Every means of Forced induction is available. Turbos, Twin turbos, superchargers, Nitrous. They show consistant 100+ hp gains. For example, it isn't uncommon for a STOCK 5.0 with a proper TT kit to belt out close to 400rwhp. A gain of over 200rwhp!!!!.
* you can do a 351 or a big block swap which gives you the potential for more growth. The 351 can be stroked out to about 426/427ci. The big blocks to over 500+ci. Some good numbers if you're really serious about drag racing.


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* rear drum brakes except on the 93 cobra(which is why i went with the 94+ which had 4 wheel disc)
* weak T5 transmission. With serious mods, you'd have to upgrade or rebuild it to handle the Tq levels the engine would be making. Expect to pay $1,200 for a good strong new 5spd aftermarket tranny. You can spend the extra $$$ and go for a 6spd if you so desire.
* insurance can get expensive depending on age, driving record, and location.
* you'll be making more trips to the gas station compared to a civic. But peformance never equals economy. Just look up the mpg average of the supras, m3's, porsches, NSX's, etc...

Hope this had been some help to you.
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Old 09-27-2002, 08:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yeah foxbody 'stangs (93and older) are really good platforms for awesome power/small weight....one of my buddies who races a foxbody, however, said that theyalways have suspension problems in the rear.....many have to weld some kind of support to withstand the acceleration "jerk"....
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And don't expect to get honest and decent answers from the guys here. All that you'll get from them are "rustang"...."5.slow"...."it's ugly...."it's a ford"...."it can't beat my civic in economy"...."I shouldn't really be commenting on cars i know nothing about"...

try any of these message boards
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or any of the other Ford/mustang boards. Doing a search on the net can give you some helpful info as well.
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Old 09-27-2002, 09:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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one of my buddies who races a foxbody, however, said that theyalways have suspension problems in the rear.....many have to weld some kind of support to withstand the acceleration "jerk"....
Haven't heard of this. The 8.8" rear is pretty stout. The stock suspension have gotten many into the 9's. That puts allot of stress on the chassis so any kind of support would be good.

You must be talking about them welding the Tq box?
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Old 09-27-2002, 09:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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ahh dude that's cold.....i drive a civic but i respect all aspects of ALL cars from 3banges to W-16's......some people arent all about HONDA SUPERIORITY, and to those who are, get off your high throne and show some respect dammit.... :
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my uncle has an 11 sec 89 saleen and posts on all them sites.

5.0 you prolly have seen him posting around. he just put big stangnet.com stickers on his side windows.
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Haven't heard of this. The 8.8" rear is pretty stout. The stock suspension have gotten many into the 9's. That puts allot of stress on the chassis so any kind of support would be good.

You must be talking about them welding the Tq box?
nah bro he said they weld torsion bars to the rear chassis to eliminate flex and breaking....i'm quoting this to the best of my ability, but that's what i have heard is a problem on that particular chassis
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And don't expect to get honest and decent answers from the guys here. All that you'll get from them are "rustang"...."5.slow"...."it's ugly...."it's a ford"...."it can't beat my civic in economy"...."I shouldn't really be commenting on cars i know nothing about"...
people like me?

btw, the key word here is CHEAP.

arent the fox body mustangs also dangerous as hell? if u get in a wreck wouldn't want to be you.
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what about reliablity? are those big engines any reliable? i mean sure every 9 second engine isnt reliable, but what about these ones in particular
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aren't as realible as say a stock honda civic, but they are more than reliable.

my uncle had over 100,000 miles on his engine at one time before he swapped it out
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theres the 11 sec beast (11.90s on street tires)
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5.0 you prolly have seen him posting around. he just put big stangnet.com stickers on his side windows.
I most likely wouldn't know him. I have more posts here then i have on those 3 stang boards combined. I'm more of a reader and frequent the tech sections. Ones in a while i'd post a question or reply to one.
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i think mustanges are the best domestics do you agree
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i think mustanges are the best domestics do you agree
for me its a mustang cobra, bullit, or saleen, or a 69 camaro

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