Well when did I ever say I was going to put an electric motor on each wheel? I only talk about the trains because thats what inspired the idea with the on board generator, thats it and nothing more. If you read my other posts it states using a custom 1 axle for both front wheels with a sprocket in the center for the 1 electric motor to power the car transferring the power through a chain.
I missed where you said how you were gonna drive it. but also if you're gonna use a generator to recharge the batteries its still a hybrid. but thats not such a bad idea to use a generator to recharge the batteriesit can run for while without using alot of gas. but I don't think you would have a problem using the batteries will using the generator to charge them
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a ex in perfect condition might put down about 100whp. basically lawnmowers will give you a run for your money
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if you're somehow getting the filter on your sri submerged, stop driving.
Yeah the car should be good to drive around town for about 50 miles between charges unless I can get more efficient batteries then I might can push it to 75 or even 100 with a top speed of about 55 MPH or faster. When you are parked at the house or around you take the power cord and plug it into a outlet. This is bring the battery to a full charge with the on board charger i'm going to install. The generator will only be used to charge the batteries if they completely die before making it home or to a power outlet this will stop you from being stranded.
To put it simple.....
1. Unplug car
2. Drive car
3. Batteries die? - Start generator and wait for batteries to charge or enough to get to an outlet.
So the car acts like an electric golf cart that will be legal to drive on the road and the only difference is that it has its own way to recharge itself if the batteries die.
I need to find a electric golf cart junkyard.
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The generator will have its own battery thats separate from the cars electrical system. If I install a key ignition on the dashboard when the batteries need recharging I can pull over on the side of the road or parking lot and turn the key to start the generator.
Off topic here but RedWabbit can I use your "Save the vowels" Signature?
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The generator will have its own battery thats separate from the cars electrical system. If I install a key ignition on the dashboard when the batteries need recharging I can pull over on the side of the road or parking lot and turn the key to start the generator.
Off topic here but RedWabbit can I use your "Save the vowels" Signature?
fine by me i don't care
I think you should use a forklift motor. there are able to move alot of weight and will propel the car rather easily. then you can send me the second motor that is in the forklift so i can use it for a project.
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a ex in perfect condition might put down about 100whp. basically lawnmowers will give you a run for your money
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
if you're somehow getting the filter on your sri submerged, stop driving.
I've thought about this idea too, but i dont think its the most practical idea. Locomotives are not really true hybrids. They don't store there energy, they use it right away. The reason they are powered by electric motors is because there are far less moving parts than a mechanical drive line, and for the forces that would be exerted by a 4,000hp + diesel engine to wheels that need to generate hundreds of thousands of pounds of tractive effort under load. Any mechanical drive line would fail pretty quickly, so the diesel electric system was used. Also, until recently, most diesel electrics still used DC current to power the traction motors, only newer models like GE's AC4400CW run off AC current.
Simply put, the diesel just turns a giant alternator. Now, if you had a small gasoline engine, like a 5hp lawnmower engine constantly running to charge a battery once a batteries charge gets to a certain point, thats an idea. But its a different principal than a diesel electric locomotive uses to power itself.
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I was watching a few videos on YouTube just killing time and came across some train videos. Well in these videos they explain how a train uses generators to power electric motors that are hooked to the driving wheels. So I got to brain storming then a idea hit me, what if you can do the same thing to a small car or truck. Put a generator in the trunk of a very small light car like a Geo Metro or something like that along with high efficient batteries. The gas petal could be hooked to a DC control box to control the amount of electricity traveling to the DC motor. When the batteries start to get weak you can fire up a small generator in the back to charge the batteries with a key ignition and electric start (the generator will have its own battery).
The car will have to be kept light (for efficiency reasons) and will probably lose its back seat due to the batteries and small generator. The generator could be a Honda generator or a more efficient one. While the car is parked at a house or somewhere close to a power outlet it can be plugged in to charge the batteries instead of using the generator.
The purpose behind this idea is to have a car that will hardly use any gas and it will be a good all around commute city/town car that will not leave you stranded if the batteries go dead.
Please if you have any comments or ideas please post here this is something I wouldn't mind trying out for myself.
do you know why they do that with trains? it's because trains are retardedly heavy and electric motors have UNGODLY torque at low rpms. hell their torque curve starts at the peak and goes down as the rpm's go up. perfect for getting a ridiculously heavy train in motion, and alot more efficiently than a combustion engine could do it. it's just a transformation of energy to get the train in motion more efficiently. in the case of a small car, i don't think it would be as great. you convert energy and you lose energy in the process. there are already some hybrids that kinda operate like what you're talking about anyhow. some use power made by the motor, and some use the motor itself paired with an electric booster.
I've thought about this idea too, but i dont think its the most practical idea. Locomotives are not really true hybrids. They don't store there energy, they use it right away. The reason they are powered by electric motors is because there are far less moving parts than a mechanical drive line, and for the forces that would be exerted by a 4,000hp + diesel engine to wheels that need to generate hundreds of thousands of pounds of tractive effort under load. Any mechanical drive line would fail pretty quickly, so the diesel electric system was used. Also, until recently, most diesel electrics still used DC current to power the traction motors, only newer models like GE's AC4400CW run off AC current.
Simply put, the diesel just turns a giant alternator. Now, if you had a small gasoline engine, like a 5hp lawnmower engine constantly running to charge a battery once a batteries charge gets to a certain point, thats an idea. But its a different principal than a diesel electric locomotive uses to power itself.
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do you know why they do that with trains? it's because trains are retardedly heavy and electric motors have UNGODLY torque at low rpms. hell their torque curve starts at the peak and goes down as the rpm's go up. perfect for getting a ridiculously heavy train in motion, and alot more efficiently than a combustion engine could do it. it's just a transformation of energy to get the train in motion more efficiently. in the case of a small car, i don't think it would be as great. you convert energy and you lose energy in the process. there are already some hybrids that kinda operate like what you're talking about anyhow. some use power made by the motor, and some use the motor itself paired with an electric booster.
did either one of you actually read this thread? I've already been over this. and hes already said it just got him thinking hes not actually gonna model it after a train.
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Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R
a ex in perfect condition might put down about 100whp. basically lawnmowers will give you a run for your money
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
if you're somehow getting the filter on your sri submerged, stop driving.
did either one of you actually read this thread? I've already been over this. and hes already said it just got him thinking hes not actually gonna model it after a train.
what fun is reading?
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-President of NMU Car club - Holy Shift!-
Thanks RedWabbit. Yeah the idea of this was inspired by trains with their on board generator. The only difference will be the batteries, they can be used to store the power while you drive around town. The ONLY time you will need to use the generator is when the batteries die so they can be charged. Once the batteries are charged you can shut the generator off and drive some more.
Just to make this clear
Train = On Board Generators
^^^(Gave me idea)>>> for Battery Powered Car = with its own ON BOARD GENERATOR to recharge batteries incase they die before getting home or to a power source.
Yeah RedWabbit I'll hook you up. I need to find the lightest car on the road today.
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did either one of you actually read this thread? I've already been over this. and hes already said it just got him thinking hes not actually gonna model it after a train.
hell no, i never read contents of a thread lol, i read the OP then hit reply if i feel the need to reply
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