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Old 01-03-2008, 07:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Brakes... Suggestions and Information...

2003 Accord Sedan Ex - V6 - 25,xxx miles...

Cars brakes have not been touched except for a master cylinder replacement done by Honda.

I'm getting the infamous vibration/shuddering/pulsation.

I took the TSB to the dealer and they said they do not cover wear and tear. He said that my extended warranty will not cover anything that has to do with the brake pads or rotors.

I purchased a set of Pro-ACT ceramic pads for my fronts and rears.

Rotors don't seem to be damaged. From what I can see and feel the rotors aren't deeply scored or cracked. There is still a slight reflection on them but they are light scratched/scored? all around.

Should I go ahead and install all 4 pads and do the break-in procedure. Then see if the vibration/shudder is still there?

The pads are about 4 years old with 25,000 miles on them. I know mileage wise it's time to change them. How many years do the pads and rotors last for? The car was garaged for its first 3 years and now is outside 100% of the times.

Would i have to first take it to the shop which is one mile away from my house and get them re-surfaced/turned? Then install the pads?

Would it ruin the pads if I go ahead and install them and then get the rotors resurfaced?

I've read that in some cases resurfacing the brakes solved the problem but only temporarily.

I'm thinking about just purchasing two front rotors instead of wasting time and effort in trying to resurface them.
New front OEM rotors go for $70 online and from what people have told me resurfacing the rotors cost $10-$15..
It seems to me that resurfacing and getting another 30k miles out of the stock oem rotors seems like the best way to go.

I have done a lot of research but I am new to the brake industry so comments, suggestions, and any type of information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advanced,
Adam
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds like you gotta bad case of the ABS.
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2003 Accord Sedan Ex - V6 - 25,xxx miles...
I'm getting the infamous vibration/shuddering/pulsation.

1) Should I go ahead and install all 4 pads and do the break-in procedure. Then see if the vibration/shudder is still there?

2) Would i have to first take it to the shop which is one mile away from my house and get them re-surfaced/turned? Then install the pads?

3) Would it ruin the pads if I go ahead and install them and then get the rotors resurfaced?

4) I've read that in some cases resurfacing the brakes solved the problem but only temporarily.

5) I'm thinking about just purchasing two front rotors instead of wasting time and effort in trying to resurface them. New front OEM rotors go for $70 online and from what people have told me resurfacing the rotors cost $10-$15..

6) It seems to me that resurfacing and getting another 30k miles out of the stock oem rotors seems like the best way to go.

Thanks in advanced,
Adam
Adam,

Florida Accord V6 owner here (1998 and 2004). Both developed slightly warped front rotors after a few 80-0 hard highway speed stops. I still have the 2004 and am going to replace mine with some Brembos or similarly well-ventilated rotors.

Florida heat + hard long stops = overheating and warps.

#2) and #4) Did this on my 1998, and the warp came back after the very next long hard highway speed stop right after resurfacing. It's the metallurgy in the steel. Once it gets hot enough, it transforms microstructurally and causes the warp. Yes they re-warp after resurfacing. In general it defies logic, but one argument is the layer that is removed is actually constraining deformation beneath. Once the constraint is removed the freshly exposed steel is free to warp.

Bottom line - the steel can't handle the heat. Replace it.

#3) - no. it won't hurt the pads.

#1) - It'll still be there.

#5) This is your best bet. The only way to fight metallurgy is to replace it.

#6) Don't waste your money. I did.


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Old 01-29-2008, 04:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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call around your local pepboys to see if they still have the EBC rotor kit for sales. these were on clearance for $35 (retail $199), complete set of two front rotors, slotted + dipples.

check it out.
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