Donkey slow power windows

[volvo-brickster]

Hey there...


Got a '95 V6 Accord with incredibly slow front power window motors.

I have replaced both motors, twicein maybe a 6 year span.

I was quoted a ridiculous price of $3xx for motor and regulator from the dealership, so decided to go with ebay for a fraction of the price at around $60 or so

When I installed the new motors each time, they are a huge improvement from before, but still not not as fast. Now, once again, they are slowing down, almost coming to a stop in the middle.

Does anyone know, aside from the actual motor itself, or greasing the hell out of the regulator, is there any other ways to speed it up or what factors can cause a slow motor?

The windows move fine with next to no resistance with the regulator detatched, and changing the motors is becomming annoying for me.

TIA

[ballahs-crew]

lets see you can take the motor out, put a crank on it instead, and then you can get it to go as fast you need as long as your arm can handle it.

[volvo-brickster]

Originally Posted by ballahs-crew

lets see you can take the motor out, put a crank on it instead, and then you can get it to go as fast you need as long as your arm can handle it.

good advice

i'll tell your mom to start cranking next time i pick her up

anyone else with an informative post ?

[coachgreen]

i have a 95 also. and i am having problems with all 4 windows. the front more so than the back. but im having a new alarm installed and im going to have the;m replace the regularts in the windows and the actuators for the door locks with whatever brand they use..they say its better than stock....talk to an alarm shop or stereo shop that is reputable in your area they should be able to give you advice on what ones to get or what to do. they deal with them all the time doing alarms

[MortsAccord]

Mine are also slow but I won't replace the motors - heres a little insight.

When the windows get slow its usually not the motors going bad, its either the alignment gets off, the lubrication used on them is worn completely dry and has become tacky, some rust could be to blame as well from poor lubrication, or the brushes in the motors need replaced.

Those motors have used brushes, and thats why they wear out. DC motors are extremely simple and easy to clean up and replace the brushes. You'd probably spend more time finding the brushes for them than actually changing them from the motor.

When a dremel wears out, I hope you don't just go buy a new one. If so please send me your old "worn out" dremels, I'll pay for the shipping and the 4 dollar brushes.





EDIT:
Since you replaced the motors, what kind of motor is used?(serial number bar code ets) I need to find out aside from taking my door apart twice- once to get the motor number and once to replace the brushes.

[ballahs-crew]

Originally Posted by volvo-brickster

good advice

i'll tell your mom to start cranking next time i pick her up

anyone else with an informative post ?

wow thats original. im sorry if a little manual labor is to much for you.

[volvo-brickster]

Originally Posted by MortsAccord

Mine are also slow but I won't replace the motors - heres a little insight.

When the windows get slow its usually not the motors going bad, its either the alignment gets off, the lubrication used on them is worn completely dry and has become tacky, some rust could be to blame as well from poor Those motors have used brushes, and thats why they wear out. DC molubrication, or the brushes in the motors need replaced.

tors are extremely simple and easy to clean up and replace the brushes. You'd probably spend more time finding the brushes for them than actually changing them from the motor.

When a dremel wears out, I hope you don't just go buy a new one. If so please send me your old "worn out" dremels, I'll pay for the shipping and the 4 dollar brushes.





EDIT:
Since you replaced the motors, what kind of motor is used?(serial number bar code ets) I need to find out aside from taking my door apart twice- once to get the motor number and once to replace the brushes.

for the lubrication part, is the regulator / rails that should be lubed?

and as for brushes...the motor is pretty much a sealed unit. pretty much like this
eBay Motors: WINDOW REGULATOR honda ACCORD 94-97 power sedan wagon (item 250251622337 end time May-31-08 10:26:29 PDT)

can u disassemble them?

[volvo-brickster]

Originally Posted by ballahs-crew

wow thats original. im sorry if a little manual labor is to much for you.

your nickname already puts you up for enough ridicule so im not going to bother

also if you think Haynes is a bible, you shouldn't offer any mechanical or technical advice to anyone

[ballahs-crew]

yep im sure getting alot of heat for my nickname great excuse for a diss.

[MortsAccord]

Common sense should play a nice role here on where and what to lubricate. Generally any place where there is moving parts that are metal. If you have some older pieces look for where there is metal to metal wear and where the friction is being generated that would cause the window to be slow. Taking the panel off and having a good look should show you what needs it. Use a small mirror if you can't see.

Clean everything up and see if you can find any areas that would be causing additional resistance that the motor has to fight aginst. The rubber seals can get sticky, one on my accord got so sticky I couldn't roll the window down, it had gotten stuck to the glass.

Armor all can help rubber from sticking but don't get crazy with it, use it sparingly cause it can get messy.