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Old 03-05-2002, 09:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question new way of lowering car???

Just recently, my friend lowered his car to a perfect drop height. By it's looks the car looks great! But the drop wasn't done by coil-overs or lowering springs, or cutting the springs. As a matter of fact, he kept his stock springs. It was done via flame torch. The stock springs were heated, to where the car weight slowly decompressed the springs giving the car a new lowered look. I know this is bad for the suspension but what exactly is happening to the springs? Cryogen, you're expertise would be greatly appreciated or anyone else who did or know anyone that did this. Thanx.
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Old 03-05-2002, 09:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That is just as bad as cutting the springs. After the metal is heated it does not have the same spring rate. You need stiffer springs on a lowered car. The car will not ride right and most likley will blow the shocks out soon.
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Old 03-05-2002, 09:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well...I don't know the physics behind it exactly, but he's basically re-tempering his springs without any metallurgic knowledge at all.

Since your life is riding on your suspension, that was a rather stupid thing to do.

He's probably fucked up the spring rate in some way, and since cooling by air is faster than cooling in an annealing oven, the odds are quite high that he has also made his springs more brittle than they were before.

I'd be willing to bet his ride is a little stiffer and harsher now?

I also don't really want to think about what would happen to a car if it's springs were too brittle and shattered while driving... :eek:

Tell your buddy to start saving for some real springs.
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Old 03-05-2002, 09:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I will lower your car for FREE!!! Just call me!! Dramatically improve handling with a lowered stance!!




I'm sorry, I'm going to hell for that.:
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Old 03-05-2002, 09:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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People have been doing that just as long as they have been cutting springs both are bad idea but everyone has already said that.
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Old 03-05-2002, 12:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I saw a guy at the track have his front driver side spring explode out the side of his Mustang, turns out he lowered the car by heating the springs.
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Old 03-05-2002, 12:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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:eek: Damn! I wouldn't ride in a car with springs that were heated.
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Old 03-05-2002, 09:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 03-05-2002, 10:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I saw a guy at the track have his front driver side spring explode out the side of his Mustang, turns out he lowered the car by heating the springs.
Oops....did I do that???? I guess he will learn next time I hope.
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Old 03-05-2002, 11:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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your friend is an absolute moron....his car will be in the junk yard in a couple months....it will change the grain structure of the metal and the mechanical characteristics which were previously "set" through a temper and anneal process by the spring manufacturer. Annealing eliminates all internal stresses which weren't previously taken care of by tempering. Heating the spring again will cause the internal stresses to reappear. This fatigues the spring and it will most likely snap under heavy loads.
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I just have to say DUMBASS!!
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Old 03-06-2002, 04:37 AM   #12 (permalink)
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what a bonehead hello someone is cheap. what a good way to save some money and screw up your car. GETTO!!!!someone needs to learn more about cars...:
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I agree with Madtownhonda. No offense man, but you're friends' a Jackass.. Wouldn't you think the integrity of the spring will be affected by that?? Tell him to do it right, shocks/springs/coilovers, etc. :
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Old 03-06-2002, 05:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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My springs were 170 shipped...

Is saving a whole 170 worth your life, your car breaking, a shitty ride, and the chance of burning yourself????

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Cheap ass stupid fuck...

Sorry that was four words, but that is so stupid IMO...
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