"Should I Buy This?"/"What Do You Think About This" Thread?? - Page 7 - Honda Forum / Acura Forum

that one civic · 03-11-2005, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KJMagnum

I figured that the cai was better performance wise and the only reason people got the sri was because it was cheaper and they couldn't justify getting a cai.

well generally speaking, cold airs do give slightly better mid range performance. the AEM one is notorious for having a large power spike in the mid range (like around 4500 rpm i think, i might be wrong about that). overall though, the shorter tube of the short ram helps to maintain velocity at higher speeds, which results in better performance.

the thread that i referred to described a drag race between two BB5 preludes that had identical mods, except that one had an AEM cold air, and the other had a generic short ram. the 'lude with the short ram ran quicker because the cold air in the other 'lude couldn't maintain air speed velocity at the higher rpm range.

there's also always the problem of hydrolock, which does actually happen. granted, if you drive carefully, you'll probably never have to worry about it. but it's still something to keep in mind. yes short rams do kind of suck in the summer, and yes that is when it's beneficial to have the cold air. but that really only applies to low speed acceleration. once you get to a good speed, the hot air in your engine bay is flowing, so it doesn't affect performance as much.

hell, if you're really that undecided, you could always just by one of each. i almost bought a used AEM cold air a few months ago just so i could run it in the summer, and the short ram in the winter. only thing that really stopped me was a lack of a place to store it at the time (i was moving).

KJMagnum · 03-11-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by that one civic

well generally speaking, cold airs do give slightly better mid range performance. the AEM one is notorious for having a large power spike in the mid range (like around 4500 rpm i think, i might be wrong about that). overall though, the shorter tube of the short ram helps to maintain velocity at higher speeds, which results in better performance.

the thread that i referred to described a drag race between two BB5 preludes that had identical mods, except that one had an AEM cold air, and the other had a generic short ram. the 'lude with the short ram ran quicker because the cold air in the other 'lude couldn't maintain air speed velocity at the higher rpm range.

there's also always the problem of hydrolock, which does actually happen. granted, if you drive carefully, you'll probably never have to worry about it. but it's still something to keep in mind. yes short rams do kind of suck in the summer, and yes that is when it's beneficial to have the cold air. but that really only applies to low speed acceleration. once you get to a good speed, the hot air in your engine bay is flowing, so it doesn't affect performance as much.

hell, if you're really that undecided, you could always just by one of each. i almost bought a used AEM cold air a few months ago just so i could run it in the summer, and the short ram in the winter. only thing that really stopped me was a lack of a place to store it at the time (i was moving).

Well I'm not going to be racing this car at the track. I just want to fix it up to make it more of a fun daily driver. That's why I don't want to mod the engine a lot. I'm looking more into increasing handling through shocks and strut bars. I only really want an intake for the slightly better performance that is gained while driving around on the streets at rpms under 5500. Knowing this what would you suggest for my intake? I also live in sunny san diego where it doesn't rain nearly as much as it is hot out.

VtecAddict · 03-11-2005, 03:19 PM

I'd say screw both SRI and the CAI, and get blown.

KJMagnum · 03-11-2005, 03:19 PM

Blown as in forced induction?

jon · 03-11-2005, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KJMagnum

Also in addition to intake Im looking at an exhaust setup. I found both the apex'i world sport 2 and the magnaflow cat-back to be good for their price (both $370). Which one is better?

i trust in apex, and so do alot of people on here

VtecAddict · 03-11-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BFK_SI_EG

i trust in apex, and so do alot of people on here

Yeah its basically what you want from the exhaust? I believe the magnaflow is fully stainless so it'll hold up longer but it is also very loud and the WS is very quiet.

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Originally Posted by KJMagnum

Blown as in forced induction?

Thats the one

KJMagnum · 03-11-2005, 06:28 PM

Well I want this car to last me a long time so turbo is out of the question. I would like my exhaust to last a long time but I dont want it loud like some cars I have heard. I didnt think that the magnaflow would be that loud. I guess I will hold off on buying one until I can hear them.

VtecAddict · 03-11-2005, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KJMagnum

Well I want this car to last me a long time so turbo is out of the question. I would like my exhaust to last a long time but I dont want it loud like some cars I have heard. I didnt think that the magnaflow would be that loud. I guess I will hold off on buying one until I can hear them.

Where do you live at, if you have snow/salt basically your only option is something that is full SUS304 stainless. PM kommon_sense he had the magnaflow and he sold it becuase it was too loud.

Good catbacks that are full SUS304 = greddy sp2, greddy evo2, thermal classic, thermal stealth, comptech, invidia, etc.

KJMagnum · 03-12-2005, 11:43 AM

Well I live in San Diego so there isn't any snow. I bought the car from a lady that lived at the beach so the car has some rust on it but I won't be putting anymore on it. So do I need to have fully stainless steel piping, or is the apex'i ws2 good enough. I guess if the magnaflow is loud enough to sell than I don't want it. I've heard the ws2 on a rsx and that was just a nice purr like I want.

inmycivicex · 03-12-2005, 11:44 AM

i've decided i want the apexi WS exhaust cause it's the quietest, my question is the WS2 the same thing? maybe a better version, does anyone know?

KJMagnum · 03-12-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by inmycivicex

i've decided i want the apexi WS exhaust cause it's the quietest, my question is the WS2 the same thing? maybe a better version, does anyone know?

i believe the ws2 has a rolled exhaust tip as one of its only differences from the ws1. other than that i wouldnt expect much to be changed.

inmycivicex · 03-12-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KJMagnum

i believe the ws2 has a rolled exhaust tip as one of its only differences from the ws1. other than that i wouldnt expect much to be changed.

rolled exhaust tip? whats that, lol? i'm buying for it quiet sound, so if i sounds any different then i don't want it.

KJMagnum · 03-12-2005, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by inmycivicex

rolled exhaust tip? whats that, lol? i'm buying for it quiet sound, so if i sounds any different then i don't want it.

that means the edge of the pipe that you see isnt just a cut off sheet of metal. its curved inward so that the edge of the pipe is nice and rounded. i think it looks a lot better and its also sturdier.

VtecAddict · 03-12-2005, 01:27 PM

You cant even buy the ws1 anymore. The ws2 is a nice piece. I dont rembmer what they changed, i know the muffler is stainless. If you live in san diego i'd just get the ws2.

inmycivicex · 03-14-2005, 05:54 PM

okay so i bought my apexi ws2 exhaust and it's on the way, but i wanted to geta header and do that at the same time, the thing, my exhaust is helpful in the rpm mid range, so should i get a 4-1 to help out in the upper end, or stay with a 4-2-1 to help the mid even more?????