should i celebrate cause i'm gettin 50hp+ more or kick myself because i'm addin 400lbs+ more weight lol jk jk.
anyway is a 1999 SI wit 30k worth 14K?
forget IHE and all that other bull crap, i'm goin straight to major hp adders. anyone from experience, will turbo without built engine take me into 13sec territory? if not should i just get nitrous and be happy with a ok fast car cheaply?
last question how many colors does the SI come in? i kno black blue and red anymore? please don't list other country colors. thanks in advance...
What year hatch? And why don't you swap a Si engine(or another engine) into your hatch. Less weight = faster for less HP. Then upgrade from there. Thats what I would do. If I were to re-live buying my car knowing what I know now I would have bought a 96+ hatch and went from there, heck I love the 92-95 hatches also. However I do like the way the coupes look and that is what I was going for when I bought my car.
if u want to run 13s w/ turbo u going to need the bolt ons that u don't want, AND you'll have to change out ur stock internals. and lower ur compression ratio too
I have a turbo on my Si and I can hit low 14's w/o tuning. I am getting it tuned next month. So I will definitely be in the 13's for sure. It is all in the tuning. I have heard of some people runing 14 psi+ on their stock engines b/c of their good tuning. Dont' do anything half assed. Make sure you have an engine management and not a shortcut like the v-afc hack or something like that. Do it right the first time.
Anyway congratulatoins on your purchase and that is a fairly good price you found on it.
I am not trying to sound like a dick so please don't get offended, but it doesn't sound like you know too much about these major hp adders that you want, which is fine since everyone has to start somewhere. I'm just telling you that you should do some major research before jumping into something like a Turbo or Supercharger. Discover all your options, the pros and cons, and what style driving you are going to be doing mainly and find out what is going to best suit your car. But congrats on the purchase, and keep us all posted on your progress. What color Si did you get? Hope you like yours as much as many of us enjoy ours. Later
the hatch (RED) is goin to my bro who bought the SI (RED), we switchin. hehe
the hatch will be built up (B18C/nitrous - also 13sec goal). its a 2000 year model.
good price? great feelin that we didn't get screwed by dealer.
now to clear up some confusion on my part... i'm definately gettin bolt-ons. i kno for a fact i need those. what i was tryin to say was, get the turbo on first, before i waste any money on the bolt ons which really don't do nothin major in the begining. and of course planning on stand alone (either Hondata or AEM) tunin is the key. wasted enuff money on those fuel/boost/etc. hacks... in the supra TT we had.
not goin to open the engine to get to my goal. sorry just don't think i need to do that in order to get there. and if i can't i can't.
actually i think i kno a good deal about the advantages/disadvantages of goin turbo and all the other options (supercharger, NA, nitrous). i'm currently an automotive engineering technology major. and have been studyin/researchin for years. just wanted to ask for some feed back from people with experience.
thanks again everyone, will keep yall informed on the progress.
Mods: JDM ITR FE conversion. All-motor goodies. Hondata system.
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Originally posted by Racin-Type Thanks for everyones warm welcome
now to clear up some confusion on my part... i'm definately gettin bolt-ons. i kno for a fact i need those. what i was tryin to say was, get the turbo on first, before i waste any money on the bolt ons which really don't do nothin major in the begining. and of course planning on stand alone (either Hondata or AEM) tunin is the key.
not goin to open the engine to get to my goal. sorry just don't think i need to do that in order to get there. and if i can't i can't.
actually i think i kno a good deal about the advantages/disadvantages of goin turbo and all the other options. have been studyin/researchin for years. just wanted to ask for some feed back from people with experience.
I think 14k on a 99 Si w/30k is reasonable.
To answer your question... 13s with a stock block and a turbo are easy. I'm inches away from doing it! I just need a clutch!
I haven't even tuned my Hondata on a dyno yet, but I do know that I'm hitting about a 14.1 or 14.2 on street tires, A/C and PS, full interior, and only 7psi of boost...don't forget a stock clutch. I'll admit I'm still learning how to get a good start. I've got an AEM big brake kit so I can't use slicks. If I can find drag radials for 17s then I might have to do that someday...or take my front brake kit off. And you're right...you won't need to open the block to get 13s. It'll help you big time if you can muster it up to take off your A/C. I couldn't do it yet. Maybe someday. Not to mention its a lot easier to install the turbo if you have no a/c.
Hondata is freaking awesome! Make sure you get your Si compression tested before you turbo it. I think it'll help you out i the long run. No need to lower the compression either. High compressiong just means you'll have boost sooner and you have fewer room for errors with your a/f ratio.
You're completely right about just doing the turbo to start with. I wasted money on a header, an intake, and an exhaust when that could have been a good 1/3 or 1/2 of what I paid to do my turbo kit.
Fire away with your questions...I'm ready to help out!
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Originally posted by Racin-Type
actually i think i kno a good deal about the advantages/disadvantages of goin turbo and all the other options (supercharger, NA, nitrous). i'm currently an automotive engineering technology major. and have been studyin/researchin for years. just wanted to ask for some feed back from people with experience.
thanks again everyone, will keep yall informed on the progress.
What I meant was going FI as far as a '99 Si or B16 goes, that is where your research should be focused. Just hope I didn't offend you with that comment, sorry if I did . Starting with an engine with the CR that the B16 has, it isn't always the easiest thing to put on a turbo and expect to run large amounts of boost without some research. But it sounds like you got all that figured out, sorry again for any confusion. Where you going to school? I'm also going to school for engineering (mechanical) and would like to get into the automotive industry. I figured mechanical would be the best choice cause they are so diverse in what they have to learn and have to learn engine/motor design also. Anyways, good luck...later
I'm so glad to see that the 13sec time is relatively easy with turbo. Yea i kno taking the AC out would help out but the hatch i got now has no AC and last summer i was dying lol.
uoborder - what level hondata do u have? is it complicated? how much did it help u out even without tuning?
Red si - its ok I wasn't offended. yea i thought bout the mechanical engineering too and like u thought bout the advantages of knowin a broad area instead of auto eng. but decided that auto was the thing for me. I'm goin to SUNY Farmingdale in Long Island NY. i didn't want to travel far for a good school and found out that the program they have there also includes the business side of the auto industry and since i want to open a shop or somethin of my own later on that program was perfect for me. Yea CR in the b16 is "harsh", but i think with very precise tuning (stand alone ECU) and low boost nothin crazy just enuff hehe ( i think big boost numbers are a waist of air if not tuned right).
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Originally posted by Racin-Type I'm so glad to see that the 13sec time is relatively easy with turbo. Yea i kno taking the AC out would help out but the hatch i got now has no AC and last summer i was dying lol.
uoborder - what level hondata do u have? is it complicated? how much did it help u out even without tuning?
I've got a Hondata 3b. I just loaded up the base Turbo GSR map that Hondata has, and then set the settings (Max Boost/Boost Cut-off, Rev Limit, VTEC change, injector size, manual tranny, etc.) and burned the chip. Drop the chip in my P28 and pluged the ecu into the harness and the wire coming out of the ecu into the hondata box. I didn't do the initial wiring for the hondata when I got it. I just paid the $110 to have it done by my Hondata dealer.
The base Turbo GSR map is pretty conservative ignition and fuel maping. Which is good cause I don't want to run lean. Since I didn't dyno tune the thing I know I'm not pushing out the most hp I could with it. It still has prevented my engine from blowing up, helped me to achieve 28mpg on the hwy, and been fun to tell people about (especially the domestic guys when they find out I have 10.2:1 CR and 7psi with a rev limit of 8484rpm. They can't figure out how it still works.).
__________________ F/S: OBD-IIb to OBD-I conv harness. 96-00 Civic camber kit. PM for details.
99 Si-T: Ran a 13.87 @ 102.34mph. Full int, w a/c & p/s, on 17" street tires, and a full exhaust (no open downpipe) @ 6.5psi of boost. Check out my old Si-T
Totalled my All Motor GSR 10/1/05
. Starting with an engine with the CR that the B16 has, it isn't always the easiest thing to put on a turbo and expect to run large amounts of boost without some research. But it sounds like you got all that figured out, sorry again for any confusion. Where you going to school? I'm also going to school for engineering (mechanical) and would like to get into the automotive industry. I figured mechanical would be the best choice cause they are so diverse in what they have to learn and have to learn engine/motor design also. Anyways, good luck...later
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