Good project cars?!?!?!

[GotBoost98]

Originally Posted by Nathan123

For the same price or cheaper than some of the cars listed, you could get a 1996 LT4 Corvette. Runs low 13's completely stock with a fair driver (I've seen 12's with a GOOD driver), and has plenty more potential. They'll take a 150 shot without breaking, putting you at mid-11's for <$1000 dollars in mods. The interior is cheap compared to the RX-7/Supra (although it is comfy), but it handles quite well (especially with a few cheap aftermarket components or the Z51 factory suspension) and should have no problem beating every one of the cars you've listed.

GREDDY BCC an Boostcontroller =owned>Lt4 with $1000in mods........
The parts for the supra just mentioned dont even add up to 1000 ...lets throw an intake into that ..........

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[Nathan123]

Originally Posted by GotBoost98

GREDDY BCC an Boostcontroller =owned>Lt4 with $1000in mods........
The parts for the supra just mentioned dont even add up to 1000 ...lets throw an intake into that ..........

A Supra running mid-11's for the price of a 150 shot (not $1000 either)? HA. Where is that happening? I've seen them with WAY more than that running like 12.5 @ 123. Regardless, that was not my point, hence the lack of such a comparison.

MY POINT WAS (since it is escaping some) that the LT4 Vette is pretty much UNMATCHED in it's abilty, both in a straight line and in turns, for a car usually priced in the low $10k's. NOT like a F&F super-inflated resale of a MKIV Supra TT (i.e. $25k+ for a good condition 1993 model). I like the Supra, but would not recommend one due to the absolutely RETARDED price they tend to go for, and the lack of a truly usable power band for anything but highway racing. Anyone who thinks otherwise can feel free to explain why a 400 RWHP Camaro will ass rape a 400 RWHP Supra down the 1/4...

[GotBoost98]

Originally Posted by Nathan123

A Supra running mid-11's for the price of a 150 shot (not $1000 either)? HA. Where is that happening? I've seen them with WAY more than that running like 12.5 @ 123. Regardless, that was not my point, hence the lack of such a comparison.

MY POINT WAS (since it is escaping some) that the LT4 Vette is pretty much UNMATCHED in it's abilty, both in a straight line and in turns, for a car usually priced in the low $10k's. NOT like a F&F super-inflated resale of a MKIV Supra TT (i.e. $25k+ for a good condition 1993 model). I like the Supra, but would not recommend one due to the absolutely RETARDED price they tend to go for, and the lack of a truly usable power band for anything but highway racing. Anyone who thinks otherwise can feel free to explain why a 400 RWHP Camaro will ass rape a 400 RWHP Supra down the 1/4...

becausre they suck at driving... they do a 13 flat stock. an a supra wouldnt lose if it had a good driver........ an they shine in alot of places..Just because you see them do crappy on the 1/4 is because of peoples lack of attention to the suspension it will happen with anything..kids get these cars an neglect that angle..........I know supras.....they shine everywhere..........

[Nathan123]

Originally Posted by GotBoost98

I know supras.....they shine everywhere..........

I know them too. I probably would have bought one a few years back if the resales hadn't shot through the roof. They are very good cars (especially in interior quality and reliability)... just not as good as the price people often pay to own them. And they will lose on a road track or drag strip to a Z51 LT4 Vette, stock for stock, and do take considerably more RWHP than a newer V8 car to beat them in the 1/4. That is the nature of a heavy, small displacement turbo car.

[GotBoost98]

okay not going to argue with you even though im aAdministrator on 2 supras sites.....I think I would know a bit better..........I just disagree you dont know them as well as me.....an there are worth there price thats why its king of the USA roads of imports..unless if we had the skyline over here..... Thats why its the most saught after motor an car in the USA...Just not easy for people to be able to afford them.....Its the price you pay when you want the best other than a skyline.........AS for them needing more Rwhp thats a load of crap.......Lets take the mclaren F1 627hp an a 627hp supra.....does its 11.40 time the maclaren does.......IF the idiot that bought it set up the suspension right......

[Nathan123]

Originally Posted by GotBoost98

AS for them needing more Rwhp thats a load of crap.......Lets take the mclaren F1 627hp an a 627hp supra.....does well past its 11.60 time the maclaren does.......IF the idiot that bought it set up the suspension right......

Wow.
Now a Supra can make up for a 600+ pound disadvantage, with the SAME peak power and a far worse torque curve. JUST BECAUSE IT'S A SUPRA!

Do you really believe this?

[GotBoost98]

Seen it.. An the Maclaren has a 427tq at 5600rpm.Go to a supra Ive seen tons of supras make more than that at 627hp check some supra boards........Sorry you dont know supras like that........ Its okay though an no im not hating on the vette..I dont think you know what supras really can do......you wouldnt have made that comment if you did....Its all good.....nice c5

[Nathan123]

Originally Posted by GotBoost98

Seen it...Go to a supra board........Sorry you dont know supras like that........ I dont think you know what the TQ curve on a properly done supra is....Its okay though an no im not having on the vette..I dont think you know what supras really can do......you wouldnt have made that comment if you did....Its all good.....nice c5

Thanks about the car, but no 627 crank horsepower Supra will be within a mile of a properly driven Mclaren F1. Physics is still >> Supra.

[GotBoost98]

Im aware of the weight difference power to weight...I know I know,If I find it I will pm you the link for sure.....Not sure what weight you think the supra checks in at but its 3500...... 2513lb F1 Im like half awake..not sure why I compared a car thatl it weighs 1000 pounds less...pay no attention to what I said ITs got weight against it..... But I know if a supra was made of fiberglass like C5 ext it would be tons faster. Supras period owns in the end> An comparing a vett to a supras is like comparing a Crx to a mustang gt......but a 627hp supra does do 11s maybe not the trap speed of the maclaren but it will do 11s

[Nathan123]

Originally Posted by GotBoost98

But I know if a supra was made of fiberglass like C5 ext it would be tons faster. Supras period owns in the end> Am comparing a vett to a supras is like comparing a Crx to a mustang gt......but a 627hp supra does do 11s maybe not the trap speed of the maclaren but it will do 11s

IF? There is no if. They are made entirely of steel, and are therefore heavy. They also are not as fast as any top-trim Vette since 1990... no ifs, ands, buts.
CRX to a Mustang GT? Please.

Not to mention a Mclaren F1 runs 10s....

[GotBoost98]

they run 11.4 ....... WE know there are made of steel damn man.. No shit theres no if..thats what I SAID IF. You are nit picking you got the idea were not talking size....weight....weight.....crx weights what 2150ish an the z06Curb Weight 3290 pounds its not much heavier than a supra 3500
.....your just being a jerk now.....You knew damn well what I ment.......... You just want to bash supras typical C5 owner ....I wish you really knew your supras better.....you wouldnt be saying early 90s........Your going to think what you want an that you know about the supra when you dont.........you know bits an pieces....... Its cool..... :byye

[Nathan123]

Originally Posted by GotBoost98

You just want to bash supras typical C5 owner ....I wish you really knew your supras better.....you wouldnt be saying early 90s........Your going to think what you want an that you know about the supra when you dont.........you know bits an pieces....... Its cool..... :byye

I'm not "bashing" anything. Nor do I have some kind of "nose in the air" thing going on because of the car I drive.
The ZR-1 Corvette (circa 1990) will mop the floor with a Supra. That's the way it is, and that's why I said 1990.

And as for my Supra experience, a roommate of mine had a '95 TT. You know, the last year with the GOOD shifter. I helped him mod that thing to BPU++ (depending on who you talk to) @ 470 RWHP and a mustang dyno. It went over 190 with the TRAC fuse removed. I've driven it at the track mulitple times and know what they can do. Stock, they can't keep up with a ZR-1. Or an LT4. Or a C5. Modded, sure.

But to put this thread back on subject.... NO, the MKIV Supra is NOT a good project car. It is too expensive for what it does. MAYBE in a few years, if the F&F generation hype goes away. But not now.

[GotBoost98]

Originally Posted by Nathan123

I'm not "bashing" anything. Nor do I have some kind of "nose in the air" thing going on because of the car I drive.
The ZR-1 Corvette (circa 1990) will mop the floor with a Supra. That's the way it is, and that's why I said 1990.

And as for my Supra experience, a roommate of mine had a '95 TT. You know, the last year with the GOOD shifter. I helped him mod that thing to BPU++ (depending on who you talk to) @ 470 RWHP and a mustang dyno. It went over 190 with the TRAC fuse removed. I've driven it at the track mulitple times and know what they can do. Stock, they can't keep up with a ZR-1. Or an LT4. Or a C5. Modded, sure.

But to put this thread back on subject.... NO, the MKIV Supra is NOT a good project car. It is too expensive for what it does. MAYBE in a few years, if the F&F generation hype goes away. But not now.

Mustang dynos suck Dynojet gives the most accurate reading...All I am going to stay stock supras can do anywhere froma 13.0 flat to 12.8 so its whatever. Also a BPU isnt that impressive to me...Anything past APU+ is.His might have done more power if he had reset the Ecu incase it detonated once in its life.....The knock sensors puts it into a low power mode.....Anyway..Of course the supra isnt for the enthusist on a budget.. ...Also I never said a supra would beat a zo6 c5 ........you have your "facts" about the supra an I have mine..But it was atleast adult for the most part......Thanks for the debate.