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NISSAN SILVIA???
I'm trying to find out as much info as possible about them, so anything that you know will help....price, good years, problems with the car, possibly where i can get one, are they rare, etc? thanks for any help....
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They dont make them here...so yea, their pretty rare. The closest weve got is the 240sx but it is lacking the sr20det which makes the silvia the badass car it is. However u can get a jdm sr20 over here in the states and swap it into a 240.
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Ask more specifically and I can bomb you with information. Silvias are actually still available for sale in its more recent iteration; the S15. The United States was only exposed to the S13 and S14. The S14 is heavier, has a more flexy chassis, and isn't as "sportly-tuned" as an S13. A good condition S13 will be much harder to find, but if you've got the money; you've got a better platform to build off of (more tuner friendly; in the same sense that it's better to fix up a DX than an EX.. it's more bare)
I can go on and on and on about these cars man. Ask more specific questions!
Why are these cars so expensive? Is it just cause they have to import them? For a 2001 it says $85k+, and only makes 280hp!
Hell, even the money you would spend for a 1990 model from that www.motorex.net website you could build one badass car.
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The S13s are NOT expensive. You can find a pretty beat up example for well under $3000. Hell; you can find a potential project car for just $800. S14s are a little more pricey; going for $6000 or so in SoCal. 1998 models (strawberry face, or evil eyes) are rare in the US, and can sell for as much as $12,000. S15s are still new, so of course those will be expensive. That $85K is probably for a full import price; importers have to jump through some serious hoops to get a car you want. You might as well go to Japan and live there and buy the car yourself. That might be marginally easier. (and in that case, you probably wouldn't go for a Silvia; but a Skyline instead).
The Nissans S13/S14/S15 are regarded as some of the best drift cars in the world. See how common Civics and Integras are, here in the US? Well, FF cars by Honda are crap compared to the RWD Nissans that are offered in the JDM. Why are these so popular? Read on.
#1. The chassis is excellent. It's stiff, it's not too huge and is tossable. It's well balanced and not too heavy in the front. Good for drifting.
#2. The engine is excellent. Whether it's a CA18DE or a godly SR20DET, the engine is well suited for drifting business. It revs to seven grand (pretty high for a Nissan, nothing compared to a Honda), keeps the torque level up, and most of all; can hold good BOOST. All Nissan engines are way overbuilt and can withstand ridiculous amounts of power.
#3. Parts are cheap and easy to find. Maybe not in the US, but in the JDM, the S13/S14 have been around for quite a while and part donor cars are common in junkyards. So after a good night of drifting with your car all falling apart; it's easy to head over to the junkyard and get stuff to put your car back together.
#4. Parts cross over. The S13 shares almost all it's parts with the S14. The S14 can share parts with the S15. The S15 can share parts with the R34. The R34 can share parts with the R33. The R33 can share parts with the Z32. Get the idea? When you can dive into the parts bin and pull out Skyline GT-R brakes and can stick them on your car, it's just another incentive to get the car.
#5. It's RWD. There's tons of advantages to this. It's better on acceleration. It's perfect for drift. It's great for drag. It's excellent for track (so's an Integra, BTW), but the S13 has the ability to break traction and slide around, faster even, than a DC2 on some turns. RWD... it's just better.
#6. The cars look great. Even if you don't wanna race and just wanna go show, an S platform is your platform of choice. The proportions are just right; the car sits just right; it's just right. How many Civics do you see with S15 Silvia fronts? They're out there on the show circuits. Then think, how many Silvias do you see with Civic fronts? Umm....
#7. The cars react well to modification. Spend $800 or so, and you can increase power by 100hp with just a few mods. It only makes 280hp? True, but remember that Japanese auto manufacturers are under an unwritten agreement not to make anything go over that 280hp. Why else do you see the Supra, the Silvia, the NSX...even the Skyline GT-R only hitting 280hp? An unleashed Supra goes well into 1400hp, a lightly modded R32 Skyline can go 350hp easy, and the SR20DET in the Silvia?
There's a shop called McKinney Motorsports here in San Diego. They have an old Datsun 510 with a built SR20DET in it. 1000hp. 2.0L. Okay?
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By the way; I noticed you're in Daygo. I'm not sure if you'd know anything about it; but how hard have the runs been with by SDPD's Dragnet? Mira Mesa is actually quiet around weekends now, and Qualcomm's sanctioned events keep getting cancelled due to rain. Would you know of Wild Animal Park/Via Rancho?
To tell you the truth I rarely go out to the drags. It's desert season now, so I've spent more time working with my friends' trucks. Also, since I'm not going to run my camaro and I'd really rather not deal with cops "on a mission".
And I have no idea how the new spectator laws are going to play out. Fuckin Freedom of Assembly is stated in the Constitution, so I'm not sure how they are going to enfore it on public streets. Plus, with all the recent fatalities I think the cops were going on a real binge of busts for the elections, but now that they are over I wouldn't be surprised to see the cops forced to back off from lack of funding and politicians thumping their election cries.
If I were you I'd go up to LA and grab their autotraders. On the way home from Vegas this weekend I made my friend stop off and I grabed some (Auto, Truck, Bike Traders) and when checking out the prices I was floored. Much bigger selection, a lot of real steals if you can get to them in time.
Originally posted by 91 F-body Why are these cars so expensive? Is it just cause they have to import them? For a 2001 it says $85k+, and only makes 280hp!
Hell, even the money you would spend for a 1990 model from that www.motorex.net website you could build one badass car.
Why the extreme interest in these cars?
first off....motorex only imports SKYLINES. and theres a reason why they only make 280hp. in japan, the have a "gentlemen's deal" amongst the car manufactorers to limit their cars to only 280hp. but the skyline is known for making more than the suggest hp.
Originally posted by 91 F-body Why are these cars so expensive? Is it just cause they have to import them? For a 2001 it says $85k+, and only makes 280hp!
Hell, even the money you would spend for a 1990 model from that www.motorex.net website you could build one badass car.
Why the extreme interest in these cars?
Shipping ($4000-5000 closed box) is only part of the cost.
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Some of the basic items that are changed are things such as US emissions, speedometer , crash structure , lighting , US VIN , warning , and information labels.
We have had to go though all of the mandatory requirements for the DOT and EPA . Including crash testing , air bag testing , and OBD II to meet the Code of Federal Regulation requirements. Since Nissan did not perform any of these requirements , we have independently completed the research and development. The pricing reflects our cost of reseach and development.
The extreme interest in these cars stems from the fact that they are probably the most advanced Japanese car ever made.
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ATTESA-E-TS PRO is Nissan's electronically controlled four-wheel drive system specifically designed for road and racetrack use. Most other 4x4 systems have been designed for rally car or other off-road applications. The system employs a series of sensors and two centrally controlled wet multi-plate clutches to optimise torque split between the front and rear axles and was designed with the enthusiastic driver in mind. It ensures optimum traction and stability in acceleration, braking and cornering but without the penalty of unwanted understeer.
In normal driving conditions 100 per cent of the Skyline's torque is directed to the rear axle. Speed sensors on all four wheels, longitudinal and lateral g-sensors, along with a throttle opening sensor and a brake light switch, analyse the vehicle's traction and stability as well as the driver's intent every one-hundredth of a second. Via a 16-bit processor, the system is able to send command signals to the central transfer unit or the Activity LSD (an intelligent, electronically controlled limited-slip differential), to within 10 one-thousandths of a second, sending up to 50 per cent of the engine's torque to the front wheels. This ensures the car remains stable, even on low friction surfaces or during an oversteer moment when exiting a bend. Mechanically, the system uses hydraulically actuated multi-plate wet clutches in both the central transfer unit and the Active LSD. Drive is transferred to the front wheel via a chain, which drives the forward shaft.
The Skyline GT-R employs four-wheel steering to eliminate any excessive understeer, This system, called SUPER HICAS, features active control of the vehicle's rate of yaw to adjust the rear wheel angle in order to improve stability when cornering. SUPER HICAS works first in assessing the driver's intent. It does this by assessing not only the angle at which the wheels are turned, but also the rate at which they are being turned and the acceleration towards that rate. All this information is used to calculate the angle and rate at which the rear wheels should be steered.
The RB26DETT is underrated (much like a LS1) at 280 hp.
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I think he was asking why there was such an interest in SILVIAs. I think it's pretty obvious why Skyline GT-Rs are so interesting.
Silvias, by the way, also have Super HICAS. It sucks. If your car has it, remove it as soon as you can. It makes the car edgy and doesn't really help much if it DOES happen to work.
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