Wheels for my S2K

[11201986]

I have a spa yellow s2000 and I want to put on the 16in rota slipstreams but does anyone have pics of a spa yellow s2000 with black rota slipstreams?>
thanks guys.

[NAturtlejunkie]

dont go 16's do at least 17/18

[JMOVA]

Please do not put Rotas on an S2000.

[Eli'sEG94]

Wao first thread where newbies own it great, while I would find it sorta harsh to just say noooooooooooooo don't put 16's on an S2000 or don't put Rotas on an S2000, quick question, is this your car? (this goes out to everyone except for the O/P) if 11201986 wants 16inch rotas on his S2k then let him be. Instead of blurring out no this no that, ask him, what are you planning on doing? then if he allows you guys you can give some suggestions that would better fit his need or style, work together guys, we are a family here. Ohh and Welcome to SHO you guys everyone of you.

[Mountain-man]

16" wheels have the direct advantage of unsprung weight reduction due to less standing mass, and have the physics advantage of having a tighter rotational inertia, and less rotating mass. The smaller a wheel is in diameter, the easier it will be to spin up to speed. (In other words, the less HP it will sap from your engine to get up to speed) The smaller a wheel is, the less material it contains making it lighter. Honda knew what they were doing by giving the AP1 16" wheels. The AP2s 17" wheels have more curb apeal, while sacrificing a little weight and physics advantage.

Just by spending 5 minutes looking at Rota Slipstreams, they are lighter than the stock 16" wheel by a few pounds which already makes them desirable for racing or tracking applications. In terms of "bling", they aren't much to look at. So, it comes down to what the individual wants to do with the car. Race it/track it or cruise around town looking like hot stuff. If "Hot stuff" is what the person wants, then I think Slipstreams would be a poor choice. If racing/tracking is what the purpose of the car is going to be, then the slipstreams would have a great advantage over many other wheels out there.

BUT I also noticed that they are a cast wheel, rather than forged. Forged wheels have a greater strength to weight ratio than do cast, so a 16" wheel would be more appropriate due to damage risk. The lower density of the metal would be easier to bend/crack than it would for a forged wheel. The material would need to be thicker to achive the same strength, therefore making the wheel heavier.

Personaly, 17" wheels are the "sweet spot" in terms of weight/fuctionality/appearance. I'm going with 18"s on my car just because I like 18" wheels on the S.

All depends on what you are going to use the car for. Figure that out first, then make your decision on wheels.

[Mountain-man]

Yeah, I know that was a lot of geek talk, but it's useful information.

Also keep in mind that the Rota Slipstreams are REPLICAS of the Spoon SW388 wheels. Though I understand that some things are too expensive to get, my experience with this car (the S2000) is that if you buy cheep product for it, you will pay more for it in the end because it's garbage product and it gets thrown out early. Get the real-deal, and you'll be happier with it. The all around quality will be better than a knock-off. Don't just get the Rotas because they are cheeper than the Spoons.

I will admit I didn't reserch the Spoon SW388s, so I cannot attest to their quality over the Rotoas, however I will repeat my commets above in that it would be probably better to get the real thing rather than a replica.

Black wheels on a yellow S2k would look sharp.

[gansedrifto1]

Originally Posted by Mountain-man

16" wheels have the direct advantage of unsprung weight reduction due to less standing mass, and have the physics advantage of having a tighter rotational inertia, and less rotating mass. The smaller a wheel is in diameter, the easier it will be to spin up to speed. (In other words, the less HP it will sap from your engine to get up to speed) The smaller a wheel is, the less material it contains making it lighter. Honda knew what they were doing by giving the AP1 16" wheels. The AP2s 17" wheels have more curb apeal, while sacrificing a little weight and physics advantage.

Just by spending 5 minutes looking at Rota Slipstreams, they are lighter than the stock 16" wheel by a few pounds which already makes them desirable for racing or tracking applications. In terms of "bling", they aren't much to look at. So, it comes down to what the individual wants to do with the car. Race it/track it or cruise around town looking like hot stuff. If "Hot stuff" is what the person wants, then I think Slipstreams would be a poor choice. If racing/tracking is what the purpose of the car is going to be, then the slipstreams would have a great advantage over many other wheels out there.

BUT I also noticed that they are a cast wheel, rather than forged. Forged wheels have a greater strength to weight ratio than do cast, so a 16" wheel would be more appropriate due to damage risk. The lower density of the metal would be easier to bend/crack than it would for a forged wheel. The material would need to be thicker to achive the same strength, therefore making the wheel heavier.

Personaly, 17" wheels are the "sweet spot" in terms of weight/fuctionality/appearance. I'm going with 18"s on my car just because I like 18" wheels on the S.

All depends on what you are going to use the car for. Figure that out first, then make your decision on wheels.

WOW!!! took the words right out of my mouth.. dont forget to mention though that they put 17's on the s2k because the engine was boosted a tad bit on torque.. so they could actually efficiently compromise the 17' inch rims

[Mountain-man]

Originally Posted by gansedrifto1

WOW!!! took the words right out of my mouth.. dont forget to mention though that they put 17's on the s2k because the engine was boosted a tad bit on torque.. so they could actually efficiently compromise the 17' inch rims

Hahaha! I didn't even think about that aspect. I pretty much figured it was because American people were complaining about the small rim size (curb appeal), just like Americans were complaining about the lack of torque.

Thanks for pointing that out.

[gansedrifto1]

Originally Posted by Mountain-man

Hahaha! I didn't even think about that aspect. I pretty much figured it was because American people were complaining about the small rim size (curb appeal), just like Americans were complaining about the lack of torque.

Thanks for pointing that out.

i have vid for proof.. here you go.. remember i drive an ap1.. lived through many flame wars... personally and truthfully, there are differences between the ap1 and ap2 but these differences can only be seen by true professional. most daily drivers wont be able to spot the differences.


YouTube - Best Motoring - Hot Version - S2000 race (Part 1)... its near the end where he actually comments on the wheel.

[gansedrifto1]

people actually have no idea what the fuck they are doing to their car when they put on rims most of the time. the amount of research to actually optimize your wheels for the track. just because it looks pretty doesnt mean shit, neither being expensive. your stock wheels are recommended for a reason, but with the right amount of research, there are many choices that should help you decide which wheel best suits you for your needs. choose wisely, and drive safely.

[gansedrifto1]

Originally Posted by Mountain-man

Hahaha! I didn't even think about that aspect. I pretty much figured it was because American people were complaining about the small rim size (curb appeal), just like Americans were complaining about the lack of torque.

Thanks for pointing that out.

asians are technical as fuck !!!

[Mountain-man]

Originally Posted by gansedrifto1

asians are technical as fuck !!!

Maybe that's one of the reasons Ford and GM are in the tank, while Honda and Toyota make the best cars now.

[Mountain-man]

Originally Posted by gansedrifto1

people actually have no idea what the fuck they are doing to their car when they put on rims most of the time. the amount of research to actually optimize your wheels for the track. just because it looks pretty doesnt mean shit, neither being expensive. your stock wheels are recommended for a reason, but with the right amount of research, there are many choices that should help you decide which wheel best suits you for your needs. choose wisely, and drive safely.

22 inch chrome spinners, dawg! I see that on late 90s Camaros all over the place here in WI. They have more ground clearance now than H1 Hummers!

I put wheels on my car to look pretty. My SSR GT3s looked awsome on the car, but weighed a ton at 27 lbs for the rears.
Looked into a set of DYMAG carbon/magnesium 2 pc wheels. (these things go on Koeneggseg CCRs! They have a carbon fiber barrel and a magnesium disk hub.) They look awsome, have a ton of great physics properties that propell them far above anything else I have seen out there while achieving the look I wanted- an 18" wheel with an agressive good look, and weighing 17 lbs while doing it. But I was quoted at just over $9k for a set, and so I said no. I don't have that kind of money laying around to dump just into wheels. While I put the SSRs on my car to look pretty, I also understood the downsides to putting them on the car. I understood increased rotational inertia, greater unsprung weight, the extra stress placed on the suspension components, the decreased power, the gyroscopic effect translating to stress on the steering components, all of them ultimately bad for the car. . . . But they looked cool. I don't track my car so I never had the need to reduce weight. I'll start with myself for that. If I did track my car, these properties would come into play more prevelantly.
Now, since my SSRs are toast, I have the oportunity to look into things a tad more educated. I'm still puting something large and heavy on the car to look nice, they are lighter than the SSRs. (probably Volk GT-Cs)

Another thing to think about with wheels is the construction. Cast, spun, rolled, forged, or in the case of SSR Semi-solid fordged. Single pc, 2 pc, or 3 pc wheels. All have advantages and disadvantages.

P.S. I got some great technical information from the guys at DYMAG. I could send that to ya if you wanted.

[Mountain-man]

Originally Posted by gansedrifto1

i have vid for proof.. here you go.. remember i drive an ap1.. lived through many flame wars... personally and truthfully, there are differences between the ap1 and ap2 but these differences can only be seen by true professional. most daily drivers wont be able to spot the differences.


YouTube - Best Motoring - Hot Version - S2000 race (Part 1)... its near the end where he actually comments on the wheel.

This is really interesting. I found it curious that just switching the rims from one car to the other changed lap time by a half second, and how much it affected the AP2 when it used the AP1 wheels. That's pretty substantial.

Another thing I noticed is that the AP2 had the 9k redline. Is the JDM AP2 engine that much different than the US spec? I thought the AP2 engine had increased low/mid torque by increasing the stroke. That being done, Honda lowered the redline to prevent the connecting rods from snaping and also because the car didn't produce any power past 8k. But if the JDM AP2 has a 9k redline, what do they have that we don't? Do they use the same F20C engine, and just go on the chassis, drivetrain, and suspension upgrades?