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Old 10-07-2004, 09:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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'Suzuka Special' nears 1000hp (BAR F1)

'Suzuka Special' nears 1000hp

07 Oct. 04




Honda may become the first Formula One engine manufacturer to break the 1000hp barrier since the turbo-powered mid eighties, the Japanese company's Takeo Kiuchi said on Wednesday.


He suggested to UK magazine 'Autosport' that the latest development of the 2004 unit, dubbed 'Suzuka Special' for Honda's home grand prix, tops the field with a clear 960hp.

Honda's F1 project leader said, even despite longer life regulations for 2005, 1000 horse power will be 'within reach' some time next season. "There are several difficulties to conquer first," he told the magazine. "But it could be possible."

BMW, Ferrari and Toyota were thought to lead the way with the highest revving and most powerful V10 engines, but Kiuchi reckons the Honda will be F1's 'number one' in 2005. He continued: "The gap between this year's engine and next year's is bigger than between this year's and last year's."

The Honda engine in Jenson Button and team-mate Takuma Sato's BAR cars in Japan will have about eight horse power more than at Shanghai, Autosport concluded.
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Old 10-07-2004, 11:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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that's pretty fucking crazy. but u have to wonder how reliable that thing is
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whats redline? 20,000 RPM? :eek
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I don't think a 8+ HP increase from Shanghai is gonna help them keep up w/ Shuey & Rubens...
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I don't think a 8+ HP increase from Shanghai is gonna help them keep up w/ Shuey & Rubens...
you never know. even 1hp more helps because in F1 every little bit counts. i mean difference between pole and second can be like .01 secs or less. thats just competitive.
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you never know. even 1hp more helps because in F1 every little bit counts. i mean difference between pole and second can be like .01 secs or less. thats just competitive.
That is true. Then U better pray for rain too! But then again, Shuey is the master of the wet.

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engine power these days won't even gurantee a point finish. ford, toyota, honda have been to said to have the most powerful engines at various points of the season. the biggest impact is the chasis
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A powerful engine will keep you competitive. the technical aspect of the race is whats going to make you win or lose (tires, reliability, pit, strategy, driver..etc).

oh yea the redline on the engine is around 19000 RPM.

Honda has already said that more than likely, next years engine will reach the 1000hp mark.
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A powerful engine will keep you competitive. the technical aspect of the race is whats going to make you win or lose (tires, reliability, pit, strategy, driver..etc).

oh yea the redline on the engine is around 19000 RPM.

Honda has already said that more than likely, next years engine will reach the 1000hp mark.

The race directing was pretty bad for the japanese race, but there was footage that showed sato's telemetry, but he was shifting at a normal 18500.

Then again, it was very brief footage.
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The race directing was pretty bad for the japanese race, but there was footage that showed sato's telemetry, but he was shifting at a normal 18500.

Then again, it was very brief footage.

the footage shows the shift points. on TV they have a little audio thing that measures the engine pitch and then convert that into your visual on TV. so its just an estimate, what you see on TV.
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TOV was wondering about the rev-dropless manual...atleast for suzuka, they didn't have this.


Coinciding with how quiet BAR has become about it.
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