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Old 12-17-2002, 10:59 PM   #46 (permalink)
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i got some redline mtl and that shits smooth in cold weather but still not as smooth as a brand new car....but oh well good enough...
Give it time. Believe me; it will ONLY get better. It's not a 'Silver Bullet.'
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its better after using it for a while?
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its better after using it for a while?
Well, this is anecdotal, so take it for what it's worth.

My tranny is smoother now than when i bought my car. It's smoother than when I started using Red Line tranny oil. I expect it to get smoother as long as I keep using Red Line oil.

When you use synthetic oil, wear is cut to practically zero. Heating and cooling metal makes it stronger; it's called "seasoning."

Put it all together and your tranny will probably start working better too. This is just my opinion, based on my experience[s]. Only time will tell.. :
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Well, this is anecdotal, so take it for what it's worth.

My tranny is smoother now than when i bought my car. It's smoother than when I started using Red Line tranny oil. I expect it to get smoother as long as I keep using Red Line oil.

When you use synthetic oil, wear is cut to practically zero. Heating and cooling metal makes it stronger; it's called "seasoning."

Put it all together and your tranny will probably start working better too. This is just my opinion, based on my experience[s]. Only time will tell.. :
how often do u change yours out? the place i bought from told me the oil last longer than my clutch and i never need to change until i put a new clutch in. have you tried there motor oil yet? hows that like?
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how often do u change yours out? the place i bought from told me the oil last longer than my clutch and i never need to change until i put a new clutch in. have you tried there motor oil yet? hows that like?
As far as changing the tranny oil is concerned - I try to change all fluids every 15K. I don't have the time or inclination to figure out how long it's been since I changed the coolant, tranny fluid, brake fluid, power steering fluid, et cetera. I just change everything every 15,000 miles (including my spark plugs); cheap insurance, you know? This is what Red Line has to say about it:
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...Being formulated with extremely stable synthetic basestocks, MTL and MT-90 will last much longer than conventional petroleum lubricants. However, we do not recommend extended drain intervals, since without a filtration system, there is no way to remove metal shavings other than draining the lubricant. The regular maintenance intervals are also recommended to insure that the proper level of the fluid is maintained...
On Red Line motor oil, MANY racers use Red Line motor oil, especially racers that don't have unlimited resources and sponsors to foot the bill for blown engines.

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...Red Line Oil's widespread race-winning experience includes NASCAR, IMSA, NHRA, SCCA, Indy, Toyota Atlantic, Off-shore boats, Unlimited Hydroplanes, IJSBA personal watercraft, snowmobile racing, all forms of motorcycle racing and aircraft competition...
Please, take my/their word for this. I don't feel like running all over the web looking for links to prove it...

Personally, I run Mobil 1. If you'll notice, most F1 racecars sport Mobil 1 decals.
Mobil 1 motor oil is more than adequate for Honda 4-bangers. Red Line motor oil is no doubt better. However, while I don't mind spending $8/qt for tranny oil, I can't bring myself to spend that much on motor oil, especially when (in the long run) it won't make any difference in a street engine. i.e. less wear and longer life.

If you're a 'weekend warrior', then Red Line motor oil is the way to go. If you drive mostly on the street, use Mobil 1.

BTW, I run Mobil 1 5W30/Red Line MTL in the winter, and Mobil 1 10W30/Red Line MT-90 in the summer. Once again, for most ppl, Mobil 1 5W30/Red Line MTL would be the best combination year 'round.
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As far as changing the tranny oil is concerned - I try to change all fluids every 15K. I don't have the time or inclination to figure out how long it's been since I changed the coolant, tranny fluid, brake fluid, power steering fluid, et cetera. I just change everything every 15,000 miles (including my spark plugs); cheap insurance, you know? This is what Red Line has to say about it:On Red Line motor oil, MANY racers use Red Line motor oil, especially racers that don't have unlimited resources and sponsors to foot the bill for blown engines.

Please, take my/their word for this. I don't feel like running all over the web looking for links to prove it...

Personally, I run Mobil 1. If you'll notice, most F1 racecars sport Mobil 1 decals.
Mobil 1 motor oil is more than adequate for Honda 4-bangers. Red Line motor oil is no doubt better. However, while I don't mind spending $8/qt for tranny oil, I can't bring myself to spend that much on motor oil, especially when (in the long run) it won't make any difference in a street engine. i.e. less wear and longer life.

If you're a 'weekend warrior', then Red Line motor oil is the way to go. If you drive mostly on the street, use Mobil 1.

BTW, I run Mobil 1 5W30/Red Line MTL in the winter, and Mobil 1 10W30/Red Line MT-90 in the summer. Once again, for most ppl, Mobil 1 5W30/Red Line MTL would be the best combination year 'round.
thats wat im running now mobil 1 5w30. but the price for redline motor oil is high but they said that i could go 12000 miles without changing. you heard anything bout this?
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thats wat im running now mobil 1 5w30. but the price for redline motor oil is high but they said that i could go 12000 miles without changing. you heard anything bout this?

i would only do that with a dual oil filter setup
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i would only do that with a dual oil filter setup
they said change the filter every 3000 and change oil every 10000-12000 miles
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id still be paranoid.....i would use a dual filter setup and change it all at 12k.....
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thats wat im running now mobil 1 5w30. but the price for redline motor oil is high but they said that i could go 12000 miles without changing. you heard anything bout this?
When I run dinosaur juice - like in my Dodge minivan - I change it every 2k. It's the 'cheap insurance' thingie again.

In my CiViC, I change the Mobil 1 every 5k. Honda recommends 7,500 miles with dino juice, so I figure it's safe. I know it's a psychological defect or something, but I can't go any longer than that. I feel bad changing it at 5k, but it's sort of an experiment at this point; engine is doing fine; I'm a nervous wreck...

As far as Red Line motor oil goes, this is what 'they' say:
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So, let your conscience be YOUR guide. Personally, I couldn't go that long, but...
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I give up. Why?
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Had to reply to this thread. It seems that the civic group looks at synthetics for tranny fluids.

Check out this prelude thread. It has some very interesting info and overall opinions. Also it seems we found a way to quickly change the tranny oil.

What oil are you running in the transmission?

Let me know what you guys think.
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