"Should I Buy This?"/"What Do You Think About This" Thread??

[sumel]

hi im new to the forums and i was wanting to know a lil info out of the 1995 honda civic ex or a 1999 honda civic ex... in the future im planning to do an engine swap to a b18c type r but im having trouble i was gonna go with the 1999 - 2000 honda si but decided not but which of those two models have an si type model like the 1999-2000 si... and which car would be better overall and like what makes what more special than the other please and thank you.

[KJMagnum]

Originally Posted by sumel

hi im new to the forums and i was wanting to know a lil info out of the 1995 honda civic ex or a 1999 honda civic ex... in the future im planning to do an engine swap to a b18c type r but im having trouble i was gonna go with the 1999 - 2000 honda si but decided not but which of those two models have an si type model like the 1999-2000 si... and which car would be better overall and like what makes what more special than the other please and thank you.

The 95 is lighter and could use all integra parts for the swap. It is OBDI so it would be better for tuning unless you need to be legal which means you have to convert to OBDII for the B18c5. The 99 is updated with nicer interior but weighs a little more and is already OBDII for the swap. You would use parts from a 99-00 Si for the swap.

[klungemonger]

Well the newer models definitely look like newer styling. While the 92-95 models are still nice looking, the styling is starting to look it's age now that 3 generations of Civics have been released since that model was put to rest.

While the 99-00 Civics are generally considered to be a bit better looking than the 96-98 (they are very similar, just a mid-model refresh) the typical non-expert in Hondas probably wouldn't bother to see the difference. Most of the 99-00 parts can be retrofitted into a 96-98 model, particularly the main interior difference which is the much nicer climate control / radio console. The reason I suggest maybe doing this with a 96-98 model is if you get a Type R engine and have to stay legal, the 99-00 require an OBD2b computer (must be a US computer) and the Integras came with a security immobilizer circuit that Civics don't have. The OBD2a Civics & Integras don't have that so you can use the Type R ecu that is OBD2a, directly plug it in and have nothing to worry about.

Just some things to consider since you are just getting started, might as well get all the knowledge you can before starting to spend money. And I just want to illustrate some of the seemingly small details that are often overlooked and can cause headaches down the road, so do LOTS of research and reading about any idea you have. You may decide later on you want do do a non-VTEC turbo setup instead of Type R, who knows. Find out all your options, cut through the superficial hyped up buzzwords that everyone new to the scene always jumps on: "JDM" "Type R". Fine stuff but not always the best investments to reach your goals.

[sumel]

ok ok... u kind of lost me their... so what would be good a 96-98 model or 99 or 95 i kind of didnt understand u...

[klungemonger]

OK let me start over...
First, find out what the law allows you to get away with as far as mods go. Legality can cause problems when you've invested thousands only to find you can't pass inspections and continue using the car on publc roads. Understand that part? In many stricter states it's not legal to install a motor that is older than the car. Also, using JDM motors & ecu's in the 96-up vehicles can be a bit of a hassle since Japanese engines don't have a couple sensors that US ecu's need, but the JDM computers can't be scanned through the diagnostic port (so you can't read fault codes, will also fail inspections).
IF YOU LIVE IN A STATE W/O TESTING, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE ABOVE!

Then, decide ultimately what your goals are for the car. Looking for a specific performance goal like 1/4-mile time, or you have a horsepower target you want that you think will sound impressive to everyone? What is your budget? In other words, think for a while first, spend later. That will keep you from continuing to spend & spend trying to reach a non-existent goal.
I'm not dissing you at all just saying that if you don't really know much about Civics you probably aren't ready to have a swap all picked out. Just because the Type R is most expensive doesn't mean it's the best for YOU, or that it's the best value for the money you are spending. It's a great motor, but many have decided that $4500 can net them more performance if spent on other parts with some research and ingenuity.

I'm just suggesting to use this forum (and others too) and places like Edmunds.com to learn about what's on the cars, see pics of model years, read specs...just get familiar with the cars then make your own choice rather than ask some anonymous person to tell you what to get, it's just their own opinion anyways.

[ksji93]

found a 97 civic with 90+k miles for 5000
not sure if its worth to spend 5gs on a honda with that mileage on it
hopefully i could talk em down to 4 -45 hundred


what youse think? is it worht it

[BD]

Originally Posted by ksji93

found a 97 civic with 90+k miles for 5000
not sure if its worth to spend 5gs on a honda with that mileage on it
hopefully i could talk em down to 4 -45 hundred


what youse think? is it worht it

For one, a 6th gen with 90k is just getting through it's break in period . They are tanks.

If it is a DX, eh, it may be worth 3800-4000 if it is AMAZINGLY kept....all records, body epitomizes perfection etc etc. Otherwise 3000-3500.

EX.....5000 if it is perfect. 4000-4500 if it has a couple dings and maybe not meticulously kept.

Make sure you drive it a bit and make sure the synchros are in good shape. A perfect looking car could have been driven by a moron that abused the tranny.

I drove a GSR a couple months ago that looked amazing, every aesthetic detail was excellent. They were asking top dollar (KBB Excellent + a couple hundred....yeah right). The tranny was notchy and it wasn't grinding per se, but I could tell the synchros were on their last legs. Also, the engine was noisey (probably hasn't had a valve adjustment ever) and it had a non stock PCV valve which means the car is probably burning oil or has a bad cat and the previous owner failed emissions so they did the standard 'try to pass emissions' tune up of the past which included replacing the PCV valve, which never needs to be replaced on a honda.....ever. I offered them 5k and the tag said 9.5 .

[wolly6973]

I am looking to get some new suspension parts. Mine are getting old and worn out. At the TireRack they have KYB AGX's on sale for 93 ea. I also saw that they have some Kazera StreetSport Springs for $49 for the whole kit. Has anyone ever heard of or used these? I saw somewhere that they were made by H&R, so do you think they are as good? So the total price w/shipping is $485. Good deal? Will I be happy with this setup as a daily driver?
Also, while I am messing w/suspension would the set of Energy Suspension bushings be a good idea? The car has about 300k on it. I bet some of that rubber is worn. How hard is it to install the bushings?

[klungemonger]

Originally Posted by wolly6973

I am looking to get some new suspension parts. Mine are getting old and worn out. At the TireRack they have KYB AGX's on sale for 93 ea. I also saw that they have some Kazera StreetSport Springs for $49 for the whole kit. Has anyone ever heard of or used these? I saw somewhere that they were made by H&R, so do you think they are as good? So the total price w/shipping is $485. Good deal? Will I be happy with this setup as a daily driver?
Also, while I am messing w/suspension would the set of Energy Suspension bushings be a good idea? The car has about 300k on it. I bet some of that rubber is worn. How hard is it to install the bushings?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SKUNK...spagenameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Koni-...spagenameZWDVW
Here's a couple other options just to give you an idea what's out there. Koni rocks. Bushings will definitely stiffen up the handling and it's a good idea to do it while you ahve the suspension apart, but unless you have a press you cant change them yourself. Find out from a local shop how much they charge for press out/press in (usually it's charge per bushing) and take in the parts. You might also consider camber adjustment kits while lowering the car, then get it all aligned when your done.

[wolly6973]

How much do camber kits run? For now this car is just a daily driver, but my plans are that once I am done with college, 3 more semesters, to get a new car and this be my fun car. Would the camber kit be worth it? I was also wondering about the sleeves in the bushings on the rear lcas. I had a bolt with the head snapped off, and it was almost impossible to get the bolt out. I had a local machine shop work on it for a few hours and they finally got it. I am assuming the other side will be the same, and it would be a whole lot easier to just put in new sleeves. But is there anyplace to get them besides a dealership or junkyard?

Ordered the Kazera Springs, KYB AGX's, and Energy Suspension bushing kit( I got the black ones since they have graphite in them and are supposed to help lube it a little. I don't want any squeeks!). Should be here for the weekend. Hopefully get them in if I can get an alignment scheduled and someone to press bearings for me, unless I get the camber kit.

[John_R]

Looking to sell my Honda, what would be a fair price to ask for this car:

A 1999 Honda Civic EX 5 speed with 150,000 miles on Chasis and 90,000 miles on motor. The car is stock Flamenco Black Pearl w/ stock steelies w/ hubcaps The motor has a rear main seal leak(oil leak). The Paint is really faded but could probably be restored with a bit of elbow grease. The passenger side window doesn't work (motor seized), the driver side door panel doesn't have the window strip on it anymore. It got stepped on and broke off when working on the car. The interior is pretty faded and worn. There is no tears on any of the seats or floor. But due to living and driving on the beach for 8 years, the sand has worn into the carpet and seats pretty good.

So that's the bad.
Here is the good.

I've upgraded the Alternator to a H.O. Brand 160amp alternator, along with upgrading all the power cabled to the fuse box, battery and ground. I've run 0awg to the rear to a distribution block for the amps I had back there. It has an AEM short ram air intake and a greddy exhaust (that has been cut up in spots due to holes in it (the exhaust has been there since I purchased the car in 2000). I've got Infinity Perfect 6.5 Componants mounted inside the door running off a Rockford Fosgate "Power" series 800w 4 channel amp. The rear 6x9's are also Infinity Kappas. I don't plan on selling the Sub w/ its amp. But if I were to add it in. Its a Image Dynamics IDMAX 12" in a 3ft(ish) ported box (ported to 34Hz) with a Hifonics Brutus 1500w Mono Class-D Amp.

I just replaced the computer due to the last one failing. Car idles and runs great. Was Daily Driven for the past 8 years. The suspension/brakes/tires are all in ok shape. Probably would be needing some tires soon though.

One of my friends was interested and I told him I'd sell it for $2500 without the Sub or Hifonics amp. Or $2000 without any speakers or amps at all.

Do you think that is a fair price? or should I be asking more or less for it? (would like to get as much as I can out of it as I need money pretty bad right now)

[klungemonger]

Seems like a fair price...since you're by the beach, is there any rust issues?

[perronedavid]

hay guys im going to be buying my first car here in about 3 month and i was wondering what i should get ok i relly like the 92to95 hatchbacks or 93integras or honda prelude or delsol i relly dont no eny thing about cars i just no i want somthing fast or something that looks like its out of the fast and the freious and oh if u guy no of eny place to look for cars that are under like 2,500 that would be great thanx

[Effilcdar]

www.Craigslist.com and don't come back. We aren't a fan of ricers (people that know nothing about cars but want their's to look like something from "The Fast and the Furious"). Also learn to type a full word.

OK so that was a little harsh, if you want to stay at least try to learn something about cars.

[perronedavid]

ok Ass i am tryin to lern y do u think im on here dumb Ass