sohc vtec?

[MiamiCoyote]

Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R

we all are. how else can you continue to improve yourself.

aw sank j00 lmao am lovin this forum so far! (am a n00b btw if you didn't see my n00b thread !)

[WVU97GS-R]

Originally Posted by MiamiCoyote

aw sank j00 lmao am lovin this forum so far! (am a n00b btw if you didn't see my n00b thread !)

nothing wrong with being a noob. we don't hate you guys. just the idiots who come on here to be e-thugs and think they know shit because paul walker sucked them off before they went to bed while vin diesel gave them a reach around

[MiamiCoyote]

Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R

nothing wrong with being a noob. we don't hate you guys. just the idiots who come on here to be e-thugs and think they know shit because paul walker sucked them off before they went to bed while vin diesel gave them a reach around

LMAO. actually made me laugh out loud thanks tho.... tho i will admit, i did like that movie at first, then joined some car forums back when i was an UBER-n00b (tee hee ) and realized that shit was bull.... then started learning the real shit. my dad built land rovers in his spare garage which was where i really got my start. but those weren't really what i was into.

but x12047861 bout the e-thugs and ppl vin diesel gave the reach around to... not even a joke...

fa real tho, funny as shit what u said!

[CONRAD29]

u guy have me lmao lets see i own 2 cars my lil 2 shitty d16 is slow and crap thats why i can walk on a em1 si and ep3 and buddy ur only lighter by shortly 300 pounds if that but ill agree d series in n/a for dont get u far ive swapped the block to a jdmd15b used a y8 headgasket y8 rebuilt head ported polished 7lb flywheel stage 2 clutch new motor mounts i/h/e and it might have 120whp if im luck or lil more figure higher compression and the block allot more rev happy and no it has int been tuned yet i dont think a tune would be all that worth since i have another car that can shut up most domestic drivers good driver can make up for diff mods

[WVU97GS-R]

Originally Posted by CONRAD29

u guy have me lmao lets see i own 2 cars my lil 2 shitty d16 is slow and crap thats why i can walk on a em1 si and ep3 and buddy ur only lighter by shortly 300 pounds if that but ill agree d series in n/a for dont get u far ive swapped the block to a jdmd15b used a y8 headgasket y8 rebuilt head ported polished 7lb flywheel stage 2 clutch new motor mounts i/h/e and it might have 120whp if im luck or lil more figure higher compression and the block allot more rev happy and no it has int been tuned yet i dont think a tune would be all that worth since i have another car that can shut up most domestic drivers good driver can make up for diff mods

1. congrats on walking 16 second cars

2. you're nowhere near 120whp without a tune..... that's the most important part of your build. that's like putting a turbo kit on your motor and boring and stroking it but not putting gas in the car. it's pointless.

3. and all top of the line entry level domestic sport platforms all run around mid 13's what do you have that runs' that?

[Spuds B16a3]

u will prolly bearly even tell a difference when a sohc vtec kicks in, but my dohc is fuckin loud and it sets u in ur seat (not to show off) but it does, b series 4tw, my vtec kicks in at 4,500

[WVU97GS-R]

honestly not knocking our but i'd take a boosted d-series over a b16 any day of the week.

[drummingpariah]

Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R

honestly not knocking our but i'd take a boosted d-series over a b16 any day of the week.

... depending on what I wanted to use it for.

[WVU97GS-R]

Originally Posted by drummingpariah

... depending on what I wanted to use it for.

boost of course. lower compression ratio, lack of vtec, and flat torque make it a very boost worthy motor. i would never do an n/a build on anything smaller than 1.8 liters to begin with

[hndacvcsi]

Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R

boost of course. lower compression ratio, lack of vtec, and flat torque make it a very boost worthy motor. i would never do an n/a build on anything smaller than 1.8 liters to begin with

thats so true. i have seen so many a6 builds with a pieced together turbo kit and some simple piston/rod setups just murder some people, and i love the reaction when they are all like, "dude, you just lost to a single non-vtec" , priceless i say, priceless

[CONRAD29]

acura cls i/h/e reflash

[hndacvcsi]

Originally Posted by CONRAD29

acura cls i/h/e reflash

if your gonna do the cl motor you can just go frankie and put the 3. head on top of a tl-s 3.2 block witht the 6m. very nasty in a earlier accord like say 99 or so

[RedWabbit]

Originally Posted by hndacvcsi

ok so you have a 99ex its a d16y8, and your vtec switch-over poinbt is 5500 rpms, redline is 6800. now as far as a "kick goes the others are right, in that you dont wanna feel it jump, you just wanna hear it. if your header is leaking as you said in the other post you should damn well be able to hear it. it really just sounds like you hit the gas harder, thats all. its really not much of a diff with sohc, and dont let anyone lie to you either because dohc dont have much more of an advantage with vtec. its all the same thing with the exception of one less cam.

Originally Posted by CONRAD29

man truth to be told obviously ur drivin a dx for a reason yes vtec engages around 5500 rpm redline is 7250 unless u have chipped ecu stock ex its not really noticeable with i/h/e u can definably tell its there for example my jdmd15b block with a y8 head y8 hg it starts to pull reall nicly after 5500 and i can hear the change actully engine souds diffrent all sohc vtec dose is lock up the intake up and the dohc engine both of them lock up intake and exhaust
i dont know bout u other ex rivers but my engine deffinetly pulls aloot harder when vtec is engaged

dur, 5500? do I need to slap the both of you? vtec in the y8 engages at 4800 rpm and yeah redline is 7200 rpm. vtec would be pointless if it engaged at 5500 rpm not much of a rpm range

3 Stage vtec equipped engines
1st engagement is 2500 rpms
2nd engagement is 4800 rpms
vtec equipped engines
1st/only engagement 2500 rpms
vtec equipped engines
1st/only engagement is 4800 rpms

Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R

well duh you just went from 12 valves to 16 valves, the engine doesn't sound different it's just reving higher. all engines sound differnent when you push on the gas harder. that's all that changes. it's not like you're running a bigger cam lobe. vtec isn't a sound to begin with you don't even feel it. but i doubt it pulls all that hard. it's a sohc virtually stock d-series motor.

and the only motors you can "feel" vtec in are the dohc performance ones that change between cam profiles. and that shutter that you feel isn't a good thing. a properly tuned motor will not have a noticeable vtec engagement. the shutter that you feel at vtec crossover is a "BAD" thing. if you look on a dyno you'll see that the shutter you feel is a momentary dip in hp and tq as you switch cam profiles. so only ricers will tune their car to make the vtec kick feel bigger

thankyou I thought someone would forget about making this special point. to make the most power its normally best to make the vtec engagement as seamless as possible

and I could have swore the vtec engines operated on 16 valves then switched to a higher cam profile at 4800. vtece operates on 12 valves then at 2500 switches to 16 valves then at 4800 switches to the higher cam profile. but hey don't think of it like I'm always right but as if I'm always right and your always wrong.

[WVU97GS-R]

it depends on the vtec-e. from what i hear there is no aggressive cam lobe in the older vtec-e. it's just valve control. i guess that's why the k20's in the 2002 civic si's suck so much man cock

[slow f23]

gsr you know your shit :] oh and i love cls swaps in 6thgens. one of my possible swaps when my f23 dies. that or h22.