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Old 02-24-2003, 02:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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anyone go from gsr tranny to any r tranny (traction?) ricer ?

i was thinking about getting an R tranny with the 4.78 fd. how much better is the traction compared to single track like in the gsr. also does the lsd trannys make it hard on snow.
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Old 02-24-2003, 05:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: anyone go from gsr tranny to any r tranny (traction?)

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i was thinking about getting an R tranny with the 4.78 fd. how much better is the traction compared to single track like in the gsr. also does the lsd trannys make it hard on snow.
the lsd tranny would make it easier in snow.. both wheels are turning and trying to get traction while as you could only have one wheel doing it with an open diff.
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Old 02-24-2003, 08:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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yeah my car sucksss on snows....or ice for that matter....i can't get no traction at all......and i'm still waiting for some money to get an LSd...hope it can help a bit
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Old 02-26-2003, 08:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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how about dry traction and 60 foot times. are they much better with the lsd or only a little better.
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Old 03-02-2003, 05:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
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thanks for the post from the guys above. but to get answers at sho lately you have to make a ricer post. maybe i need to spend more time on more imformative boards because this place is becoming sho the fast and the furious.
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Old 03-02-2003, 06:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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because this place is becoming sho the fast and the furious.
Becoming?

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Old 03-02-2003, 07:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well since you posted this in a Newbie Ricer fashion?:

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i was thinking about getting an R tranny with the 4.78 fd. how much better is the traction compared to single track like in the gsr. also does the lsd trannys make it hard on snow.
It doesn't sound especially ricey, just amateurish.

As for acceleration goes, I'd strongly suggest the CTR or ITR trannies. They fly up there quicker and utilize the upper RPM powerband better. But, shorter gears limit top speed so if the car is N/A, then go for it but, if the car is FI, stay stock.


The higher FD will shorten the gears a bit more and add a bit more perceived torque.

One current killer setup for NA is the ITR 1st - 5th gears and the ATS 4.93 Final Drive, and of course a light weight flywheel. Actually this was kind of a breakthrough mod in the last 2 years. Gearing was always an option but, the 4.93 is just killer. Funny, people think it is Intake's or Cam's or Header's and Turbo's,,, It was really gearing. You sacrifice a bit on the top end but, you'll never be doing 150 MPH anyway and going faster to 130MPH is so much more fun.

As for LSD and traction.

The LSD will keep the traction between the front two wheels equal and minimize traction loss by one wheel.

Eventually without LSD the wheel with the shorter drive shaft will break loose and traction will be lost to that side. This will eventually be a major issue as power is increased and acceleration and times suffer.

But, the ITR's LSD was more important for the turns where it rivals RWD cars. The LSD for the ITR allows it to accelerate earlier than or even with a rear wheel drive car.

So if you combine a lighter car with bigger brakes that can stop on a dime, then it can brake deeper into the corner and maintain as much entry speed as possible And then put the power down earlier and have the LSD actually Pull the car through and out of the turn.

It is an extremely potent setup.

But, not neccessary for everyone.

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how about dry traction and 60 foot times. are they much better with the lsd or only a little better.
Yes but, I already explained that.

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but to get answers at sho lately you have to make a ricer post. maybe i need to spend more time on more imformative boards because this place is becoming sho the fast and the furious.
This, I still don't get.

Lately?

When did it stop being?

And this posting here BTW, wasn't anything mindbending or extravagant that we haven't covered before and you couldn't find by simply Searching, so try not to be immature either.

LOOK for:

LSD
Gearing
ITR/CTR
Final Drive
Clutch type
Gear type
Tranny
Transmission


Good luck,


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Old 03-04-2003, 08:48 AM   #8 (permalink)
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thank you. i actually added the ricer post on the thread as an edit. people on here dont seem to care about the performance questions any more. all that they care about is the ricer gear. i have seem many a ricer shop be profitable where as hardcore buisinesses go out of business. i did try to search but apparently at the time of the origional posting it would not let me do a search or go to new threads because the function was down. i could have done it at a later time but it slipped my mind.
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