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Old 08-18-2004, 10:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Camber problems....
I recently got a 91 integra ls.

-body kit, rims, orange paint, dual flowmasters, cai, 8mm wires, 450cc fuel injectors...

But the wheels are worn down due to bad camber, they wear from the inside out.
The car cam with two new tires. 70/16/205 or something like that. I want to know what is available to correct the camber? Do sway bars do it? Or should I get a camber kit. What is the minimum i should spend to correct this? It also needs a MAP sensor, whatever the hell it does. It measures fuel to air mixture right?

Also, i need to get a cat that will alow me to pass emissions, but also not restrict airflow.. Right now its straight pipes , any suggestions?
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Old 08-18-2004, 11:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Tires... camber kit. You can get away with the "washer trick" in the back, don't waste your money on a rear camber kit... but front camber kit would be needed. Also make sure you get a good alignment... tell them to put your toe angles at 0 for max. tire life.

MAP sensor... from what I remember from dealing with it last summer, it does measure air/fuel I think... not totally sure... but pretty sure it costs a lot... like $150-200.

Cat... Carsound is the best option for sure. Available at most muffler shops.

If you need a camber kit and are interested in anything on my website www.WiredSpeed.com, let me know and I'll get you a sizeable discount.
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Old 08-19-2004, 07:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Tires... camber kit. You can get away with the "washer trick" in the back, don't waste your money on a rear camber kit... but front camber kit would be needed. Also make sure you get a good alignment... tell them to put your toe angles at 0 for max. tire life.

MAP sensor... from what I remember from dealing with it last summer, it does measure air/fuel I think... not totally sure... but pretty sure it costs a lot... like $150-200.

Cat... Carsound is the best option for sure. Available at most muffler shops.

If you need a camber kit and are interested in anything on my website www.WiredSpeed.com, let me know and I'll get you a sizeable discount.
yeah.. wat he said is rite. for my G3 teg, i only need a couple of 5/8" washer for each side of the rear. those are washer trick.
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Old 08-19-2004, 07:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I saw that stuff at O'reily, our auto parts dealer. They are simply clamps that you install to your springs. Will this fix a rear wheel camber problem if I lower the interior of each spring? It won't cause them to crack will it? The front end has a sway bar, and they aren't wearing out like the rear ones are. The reason I have to fix it myself if because no one else will do it for me. Would a rear sway bar benifit me any? How much should I spend on this problem to fix it and still have a decent handling car?

I'm working three jobs and going to school, so I have money if that's what it needs... But if I can do something simple and cost effective without running up the bills I will do that.

How important is the MAP sensor? I think it may have something to do wiht me idle problem. It's a little rough, and a very low rpm. About 500. I tried adjusting it but it did no good. Check my other posts for more info about this car. I had a bad incident today...
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Old 08-19-2004, 10:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The spring compressor thingies won't do anything for camber, neither will swaybars. Sorry!
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Old 08-19-2004, 12:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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you really need to go get your alignment done.
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Old 08-19-2004, 02:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What happens during an alignment? How much is it, and what type of shops do it?

btw, got out of traffic court at 1:30 today, got pulled over again @ 2:30. Back to court for me :eek
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Alignment is like 100$ at most shops they can check camber caster toe in toe out etc during that time, buy a camber kit from Progress, Ingalls, Revo etc they're simple to install, do some more research. and why the hell do you have 450cc injectors on like a stock engine? You're probably just flooding the shit out of that engine using 450cc injectors with no management, get stock injectors and a new map sensor.
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Old 08-19-2004, 08:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It doesn't matter to me, they are there... I don't know anything about nitrous but he said that's why they were upgraded, the car is fitted with NOS. I couldn't give a rat's ass unless they affect my fuel economy. But to me it seems like if you have a cold air sucking extra air you should have injectors that shoot extra fuel, or maybe I'm old fashioned...

I thought alignment fixes a different axis than that of camber... side to side motion, I need the in and out motion.
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Old 08-20-2004, 01:20 AM   #10 (permalink)
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If you're not using nitrous put in stock injectors now... you're losing a lot of power by running extremely rich.

Skunk2 camber kits = good shit

Alignment will correct all alignment parameters except camber - which is why they make camber correction kits. I got my alignment done at Midas for $70, they did a good job - make sure it's a 4-wheel alignment and not just front end.
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an alignment will measure how far out of whak camber, caster, toe, and sai.
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Old 08-20-2004, 05:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I couldn't give a rat's ass unless they affect my fuel economy. .
Well boys, 16mpg in a honda engine, those mofo's are comming out.

The camber and alignment is getting taken care of, the body work is also covered.

I looked at injectors at AutoZone, I was like sure, 80$, I'll take them, until the lady pulled out one injector... I can't be spending 320$ on fuel injectors right now. Will the injectors out of a f22 or d15 fit?

How hard are they to remove/install? I was told the fuel rail has to be taken off, is this the top bar that goes across or the part that fits onto the intake manifold?

Needless to say I was spitting some angry cusswords at my 16mpg... Plus I think that's why the MAP sensor is screwed, and it won't pass emissions.....Any Ideas?
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Go to a junkyard and steal some injectors and a MAP sensor. BTW, I absolutly DO NOT condone stealing.
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Old 08-20-2004, 06:13 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Go to a junkyard and steal some injectors and a MAP sensor. BTW, I absolutly DO NOT condone stealing.
Laugh all you want, this is a serious problem, I need a serious solution, so keep your hethen Paegan tactics to yourself.

I would also Like to know what a reasonable price is to have my car, cambered with a kit, aligned, and two tires mounted, with all wheels balanced. I'm not sure how much the guy is going to shaft me.
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Okay, well I gave you an option, you can also go there and pay for them if you want. I don't know what to tell you if you don't want to pay for new parts. Also check the classifieds.
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