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11-26-2004, 06:13 AM
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Noob
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Melbourne Australia
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Car: Honda Integra
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spoon engine's where to get?
Spoon engines are crazy,
my questions is where do u go to buy one and how much are they?
Im after the B18B ( i think thats the code but I know thats close)
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11-26-2004, 06:54 AM
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Ninja Matsume
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11-26-2004, 01:26 PM
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Dark Wind
Join Date: Jun 2002
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wow. spoon engines are not crazy. you could build an engine that makes more power for much less than a spoon LONGBLOCK alone costs. so tell me. what makes it so crazy? because its spoon and jDm y0!  do you even know what comes in a spoon crate engine?
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11-26-2004, 01:58 PM
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Dark Wind
Join Date: Jun 2002
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and to fancy your pickle some....
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- it is a new 98 spec R longblock
- internal components are JDM OE Honda with the following exceptions
- it is fully balanced and blueprinted
- it uses the Spoon 2 piece headgasket for a compression ratio of 11.3:1
- it uses the Spoon oil pump which is stronger and more effective than the OE Honda one
- it should put out around 180hp at the wheel
what is 'balanced and blueprinted by Spoon'?
- all engine components are weighed to 0.01grams precision
- engine components such as pistons and rods are balanced, they all weigh within 0.01gram of each other
- Spoon is able to balance these components because they order/weigh/sort hundreds of pistons, rods, etc. from Honda and sort them into balanced sets
- bolts are torqued within 0.01N/M of Honda specs
- what does balancing and blueprinting do? it makes the engine run incredibly smooth, reduces power lost to inefficiency, power delivery is extremely smooth, power is higher across the entire rpm band compared to a Honda assembled engine, engine/throttle response is much better, the engine revs smoother/faster and is able to withstand high rpm better, engine life is improved considerably especially in race environments
why does Spoon offer this engine?
- Spoon's core philosophy is in balance: good power, good driving feel, and long life. this engine offers all
- circuit racing requirements differ from drag racing: an engine with the aforementioned characteristics is preferred in circuit racing over a high power, less reliable engine which might be favored in drag racing
- these engines are frequently bought by pro race teams competing according to FIA Group N regulations which require stock internal motors. hence they need an engine which has maximum effectiveness and efficiency using stock parts
who should consider a Spoon engine?
- pro/amateur racers requiring a motor in stock trim (FIA Group N)
- circuit racers/enthusiasts who want an optimized stock motor for circuit use
- people who want a new stock or reliable motor with decent power
who shouldn't consider a Spoon engine?
- drag racers
- people on tight budget or DIY
- people who want a high power setup, N/A or Turbo
- people who don't care about or aren't sensitive to subjective intangibles such as driving feel or engine response
what is the price of a Spoon engine or block?
- it is priced comparably to the price of a new b18c5 longblock/shortblock from Acura considering the work Spoon has put into it
- remember it is a NEW longblock/shortblock
- price fluctuates with supply and demand, although spoon engines aren't common here, remember that they are very common and popular in Japan and Asia
- expect price to increase over time as the supply of b18c components dwindles
- contact an authorized Spoon dealer such as IPS, R&D, A&J for a price quote
does/why doesn't Spoon offer a high power engine?
- again, Spoon's philosophy is balance. to Spoon, high power is only worthwhile if the engine can endure the stress of a 24 hour race. to Spoon, a street tuned engine needs to be comfortable and reliable while delivering improved power and driving feel
- Spoon has built and sold high power engines with 200+whp... high compression kits and stroker kits including a 2L kit for the 18C. However, the reliability and engine life of these engines still aren't good enough for Spoon's standards and hence Spoon does not offer them anymore
- Spoon doesn't drag race
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so you wanna spend 6-10k on a stock honda engine thats been balanced and blueprinted, oh and of course slapped with the spoon name. yay for you!
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11-26-2004, 04:26 PM
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SH Black Diamond
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: san antonio,texas ,biatch
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Mods: soon to be a all motor b18c1 biatch........that's all you need to know
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well if the guy is inlove with spoon, or just like spoon performance parts, let him do it. i mean he is just asking where to get it, fi yall are gonna be saying that stuff. and this and that. dont post if is not to help him on what he asked. just my .2 cents
but then again. i would not buy a spoon engine. to much money 
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11-26-2004, 04:58 PM
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Dark Wind
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just trying to spread informantion here. he doesnt have to listen to what i say. nobody does.
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11-26-2004, 07:26 PM
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SH Black Diamond
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: san antonio,texas ,biatch
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
just trying to spread informantion here. he doesnt have to listen to what i say. nobody does.
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iknow foo, i was just joking
a little sarcasm.. heheh
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95 Integra GS-R......wrecked
now owner of a 94 Probe GT
hotshot- headers
hotshot- intake
phenolic spacers
jj- test pipe
KLZE Intake manifold
PROsupercharger on the way + NX 100 shot :clap
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11-26-2004, 09:51 PM
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Dark Samurai
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Seattle area
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
wow. spoon engines are not crazy.
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LOL exactly what I was gonna say. "They balance the internals n bump compression by a fraction of a point... THOSE GUYS ARE JUST OUTTA CONTROL MAN!!!!!!" Revolutionary, ground-breaking shit Spoon's doing.... good lord $6k is a STEAL!!!

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Latest Auto-X: 5th overall in class (7th/12 Day 1, 2nd Day 2). 10th/92 overall Day 2.
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11-27-2004, 02:40 AM
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Noob
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 69
Car: Honda Integra
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
wow. spoon engines are not crazy. you could build an engine that makes more power for much less than a spoon LONGBLOCK alone costs. so tell me. what makes it so crazy? because its spoon and jDm y0!  do you even know what comes in a spoon crate engine?
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WELL u certanly think u know it all u cunt! y dont u go out and buy best motoring vol 4 - roaring vtec and take a look at a mildly worked spoon engine in an old civic and see for urself what spoon is capable of u fucken dick! 
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11-27-2004, 03:03 AM
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SH Virus
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: So. California
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there is no spoon 
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11-27-2004, 02:48 PM
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Dark Wind
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Originally Posted by tegstar83
WELL u certanly think u know it all u cunt! y dont u go out and buy best motoring vol 4 - roaring vtec and take a look at a mildly worked spoon engine in an old civic and see for urself what spoon is capable of u fucken dick! 
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touchy much?  and yes i do think i know everything thank you very much.
and you can go ahead and spend $6k for the spoon name and still get spanked by someone who know's what they're doing and dont buy things based on their name. besides....mugen > spoon 
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11-27-2004, 03:27 PM
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S Zero Racer
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chi Town/Northern Illinois
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
touchy much?  and yes i do think i know everything thank you very much.
and you can go ahead and spend $6k for the spoon name and still get spanked by someone who know's what they're doing and dont buy things based on their name. besides....mugen > spoon 
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11-27-2004, 11:14 PM
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Dark Samurai
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
touchy much?  and yes i do think i know everything thank you very much.
and you can go ahead and spend $6k for the spoon name and still get spanked by someone who know's what they're doing and dont buy things based on their name. besides....mugen > spoon 
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ditto. Name calling just puts someone on a lower level.
I do have that video on that computer. It is not that amazing. And can certainly be acheived with something less ridiculously expensive than the SUPER CRAZY EXTREME MEGAPOWER Spoon engine. News flash - those cars are fast because they weigh nothing, not because they're packing TONS of power from some wonder engine. Basically a stock balanced engine, nothing more.
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'98 Integra LS - non-VTEC autocross / daily driver (aka Track-Tested / Mother Approved)
Daily-driven 87 octane Porsche destroyer
Latest Auto-X: 5th overall in class (7th/12 Day 1, 2nd Day 2). 10th/92 overall Day 2.
Complete mod list and updated race results here:
http://www.freewebs.com/white98ls - don't forget to sign the guestbook!
 Autocrossing for a day is the best $25 you can spend
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11-28-2004, 12:09 AM
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SH Virus
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: So. California
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Originally Posted by White98LS
ditto. Name calling just puts someone on a lower level.
I do have that video on that computer. It is not that amazing. And can certainly be acheived with something less ridiculously expensive than the SUPER CRAZY EXTREME MEGAPOWER Spoon engine. News flash - those cars are fast because they weigh nothing, not because they're packing TONS of power from some wonder engine. Basically a stock balanced engine, nothing more.
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we should have an owned smiley. 
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