type-r vs. gs-r strut tops

[shu_chen4]

hey guys,

are the type-r strut tops any different from the gsr strut tops? any stiffer? thanks in advance for the info.

shu

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[shu_chen4]

i'm wondering if the rubber used in the type-r mounts is harder than the rubber in the gs-r mounts. make sense?

shu

[combustion]

what do you mean? Are you thinking the spring rate the damper stiffness. Or a bushing that has to do with the suspension?

[combustion]

Oh ok. That I dont know They may use urethane instead of rubber but i am not sure.

[mike_sho]

Moved back to the integra forum. Seemed very tech relevant needing answers from other integra owners. I dont see anything that makes this a general suspension question.

[1Greyteg]

Originally posted by shu_chen4
i'm wondering if the rubber used in the type-r mounts is harder than the rubber in the gs-r mounts. make sense?

shu

Yes

[shu_chen4]

seriously, no one knows? :

[1Greyteg]

Originally posted by shu_chen4
seriously, no one knows? :

You missed what I posted above?

The answer is YES... They are stiffer on the ITR as opposed to the GSR, or LS or RS or GS or other lesser Integra.

Following is a descrption for the differences and wgat makes the ITR suspension different from it's other Integra brothers:

"FRONT SUSPENSION

The components of the front suspension are an L-shaped lower control arm, an upper control arm, a coil-over shock absorber, a stabilizer bar and a performance rod. The engineering team also specified the use of a new aluminum shock tower bar to complement the 24 mm stabilizer bar that is equipped with ball joints instead of rubber bushings. The lightweight aluminum tower bar ties together the tops of the front damper housings. The performance rod is designed to act as an A-arm cross brace to enhance handling and precision and stiffen the front lower subframe. The tower bar and performance rod are designed to enhance rigidity and contribute to suspension precision.

The front suspension uses coil over, gas-pressurized damper assemblies fitted with the Honda Progressive Valve (HPV) unit for progressive damping action. The spring and damping rates have been greatly increased to improve performance handling. Front spring rate has been increased by 22 percent, with a 115 percent increase in compression damping, and a 70 percent increase in rebound damping. Additionally, the damper mounting bushing stiffness has been increased five-fold.

In order to enhance stability while braking in a straight line or cornering, the L-shaped lower control arm has been equipped with specially tuned compliance bushings. These bushings allow the lower control arm to impart a toe-out condition on the front wheels. Allowing the wheels to toe out while braking in a corner enhances stability and allows the vehicle to track more precisely. The engineering team has tailored the suspension to take the full benefit of negative scrub geometry, especially when braking on a split-friction surface. Under this condition, the suspension tends to maintain greater directional stability by countering the forces that would normally tend to steer the vehicle in the direction of the side with the lower traction coefficient. By balancing these forces, the Type R tends to brake with maximum stability.

REAR SUSPENSION

The rear double-wishbone suspension components consist of upper and lower control arms, a trailing arm, a coil-over shock absorber and a stabilizer bar. The spring on the Type R has been changed from a straight-rate to a progressive-rate spring, increasing force across the entire range. Damping rates for the rear suspension have also been increased with compression damping settings in the progressive-valve unit increasing by 66 percent, and rebound damping going up 31 percent. The diameter of the stabilizer bar has been greatly increased from 13 mm to 22 mm to help reduce body roll. To enhance rear wheel stability, the bearing span within the rear-wheel hub has also been increased by 10 mm. "

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[shu_chen4]

ah, thanks so much! i thought you were answering "yes" to my "does that make sense" question (and being a smart-ass in the process). sorry for the confusion and i appreciate the info!

shu

[shu_chen4]

one more question, will the strut tops from an itr fit a gs-r? is it worth the trade-off?

i have a subaru 2.5rs and switching to a set of sti strut tops made a huge difference. this is why i'm asking for the integra.

thanks again,

shu