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01-09-2007, 11:32 PM
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200WHP?
Hey, I was wondering what you guys thought it would take to get a 92 Civic Hatch to 200WHP. I want to do all motor, but I open for options. Maybe all motor, high compression, and spray. I don't know though. What do you guys think?
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01-10-2007, 08:45 AM
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Lifeless Ninja
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impossible without n2o. the most all motor you may get is 150whp maybe. and thats is a feat in itself. if you were to just do all your boltons, then a cam designed for n2o application and tune the car for it, you can get there.
IMO you could do turbo and have it more reliable and you'd have power all the time instead of just when you hold a botton.
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01-10-2007, 12:59 PM
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much easier with a b/h/k swap
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01-10-2007, 03:50 PM
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Lifeless Ninja
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much easier with a b/h/k swap
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yes but we are in the D-series tech section..... |
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01-10-2007, 04:21 PM
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not gonna happen with a na D series. if you wanna hit 200whp NA, you gotta swap it.
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01-10-2007, 05:05 PM
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^^^^^ right............if u wanna keep your d id suggest boost........u want na, i would go B or H...or if u got the $$$$ k........
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well 200 HP just wasnt cuttin it, goin turbo this time check out my build thread
http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330267
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01-12-2007, 09:15 AM
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boost is the only option... the little 1.5L in that car won't make good power. Is it even a 16 valve motor?
Your best bet would be putting in a d16z6 motor with a small turbo running 6-8lbs of boost. It should get you very close to your goal and be very reliable.
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01-12-2007, 09:17 AM
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Lifeless Ninja
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boost is the only option... the little 1.5L in that car won't make good power. Is it even a 16 valve motor?
Your best bet would be putting in a d16z6 motor with a small turbo running 6-8lbs of boost. It should get you very close to your goal and be very reliable.
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i didn't think honda made non 16 valve engines from 92 and up |
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01-14-2007, 10:47 AM
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what would be the highest you could go without boosting? like just NA parts only...but still keepin the engine reliable...like i know u could swap out pistons for compression issues but that wears on the engine...i mean how far could the engine go with just bolt ons...or does it get to a point where the bolt ons just become a longer lasting 150whp rather than an engine raping 200whp...
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01-14-2007, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Hyjnx
what would be the highest you could go without boosting? like just NA parts only...but still keepin the engine reliable...like i know u could swap out pistons for compression issues but that wears on the engine...i mean how far could the engine go with just bolt ons...or does it get to a point where the bolt ons just become a longer lasting 150whp rather than an engine raping 200whp...
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price, speed, reliability.
pick 2
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Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car. Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Horsepower is how fast you're going when you hit the wall, and torque is how far you drag the wall with you.
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Originally Posted by Immortal Technique
honest people die for their country and they religion
while the most currupt walk a-straight the world that we live in
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Bigger, Badder, and Better
Than all of your Gold And Cheddar
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01-14-2007, 11:08 AM
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what would be the highest you could go without boosting? like just NA parts only...but still keepin the engine reliable...like i know u could swap out pistons for compression issues but that wears on the engine...i mean how far could the engine go with just bolt ons...or does it get to a point where the bolt ons just become a longer lasting 150whp rather than an engine raping 200whp...
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no offense but this question is pointless. it depends how smart you are and how much money you have. at a certain point it's more cost effective to boost.....like from the beginning  high hp n/a and boost have equal reliability. it comes down to how much research you do and how much money you have. boost will give you your goal faster and cheaper. you'll reach your streetablility limit faster with n/a.
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my VTEC pops at 5k
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My benz is the first one to launch at the light. I see ricer like u everyday on road wanna race me. I just beat evo few weeks back by 2 cars.
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01-14-2007, 11:11 PM
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Or you could always just buy a Lude!!
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01-15-2007, 05:49 PM
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wouldnt' you want something that actually has an interior handling and some sort of speed.
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HP/LITER is for wannabe's and fanboy nutsack riders
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my VTEC pops at 5k
when i shift i have to yell out "OH SHIT THATS FAST!" cause its so damn fast
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My benz is the first one to launch at the light. I see ricer like u everyday on road wanna race me. I just beat evo few weeks back by 2 cars.
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01-15-2007, 06:36 PM
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Ninja Matsume
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Ive seen a d16z6 at 175whp but it was a pretty hardcore motor....
D's LOVE boost
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