Building a NA engine.

[mocha907]

Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R

1.actually i'm a single father and 22 and go to wvu, so i don't feel sorry for you. and i never said anything about donkey dicks or pointlessly bashed you. and if you're gonna quote put it in quotation marks otherwise it's just a poorly constructed attempt at an insult. how do i make you ashamed to drive a honda?

2. we merely corrected you in that making statements like "i built my 200whp d-series for 1300 dollars" is very misleading and that it was bullshit. which it was when you put the rest of the details in your statemetn. like somebody else paid for the head and the work done and that you got a deal on it from a friend. even ifyou got the head and the labor for free. the rest of the parts you listed in your setup would exceed 1300 dollars by themselves unless you spent you're money on ebay specials which isn't a good idea for a daily driven 200whp n/a d-series. you statement was still wrong. no shit if he has a hookup he could build a setup like that for 1300 dollars. but what are the chances of stumbling across a 2000 dollar head, 1500 dollars in other supporting mods and a hondata unit for free. come on man. stop bullshitting us. i could steal a mercedes and buy a totalled title from a junkyard of that same car for 200 bucks. could i then say that you can get a mercedes for 200 bucks?

3.another element on this forum is not to mislead people which your statement does. think before you type and if you can't back up 100% what you say then don't post it. an initial statement to a guy trying to build his motor is "i built my setup for around 1300 dollars and i have 200 n/a whp and rev to 9800 rpms" is very misleading. you leave out that somebody else payed for the labor and parts, and you had a friend give it too you. you're telling us you got a built head worth thousands of dollars. all the fuel mods and boltons parts, ems and tuning for 1300 dollars?

4. get some fucking thicker skin. you're getting butt hurt over the internet? wow. i would expect a 22 year old father to be a little tougher. i have a 5 year old and go to school 300 miles away from her and still come home everyother weekend and work alot more than 12 hrs a week to pay for school. no offense but who cares life sucks get over it. go bitch at a mary kay party


5. stop getting mad at me from other people's posts. i would never resort to bringing donkey dicks up in any discussion unless i was describing myself in a porno

[D17NEEDBOOST]

Originally Posted by Jo060

D17NEEDBOOST. shut up!
I gave you a positive rep. I was meaning to give you a neg. rep..just because, but I fucked up.

I'm sure someone will help me out w/ what I meant to do.

Sorry guys

[Tyler2453]

was this appointed toward me, or someone else man?

[Ckrue689]

Honestly I hate to take sides, but I have to agree with the chthonian dude. All he said was that he was able to do it. Sure 200whp is hard to come by, but its not far out of reach. it seems apparent to me that he knows what in his motor, Personally I would be proud of 200 ponies in a D-block and be boasting about it some, so I can see why you started bashing when he wouldn't spill.

This forum is turning into a s*hit talking fest, personally I would like to meet you guys in person just to see if this is how you actually are. I love my Honda, but for the few that take an innocent comment and blow it WAY out of proportion the way you have, I really dont want to be around that type of crowd. This same lack of respect is what made me quit racing Baja and go buy a civic again, But its the same s*hit, just a different crowd. Grow up, think twice about what you say, and go learn to wrench on your own f*ucking car and stop talking s*hit to the few that already know how.

Oh yeah, excuse my spelling errors, I'm an idiot, but at least I'm not a little fairy b*itch who sits on my PC ALL DAY to talk crap to some other individual that they've never seen in their life, and most likely never will. This is Kindergarten crap, and its getting really old.

Thanks for your time fellas...

[mocha907]

Originally Posted by Ckrue689

Honestly I hate to take sides, but I have to agree with the chthonian dude. All he said was that he was able to do it. Sure 200whp is hard to come by, but its not far out of reach. it seems apparent to me that he knows what in his motor, Personally I would be proud of 200 ponies in a D-block and be boasting about it some, so I can see why you started bashing when he wouldn't spill.

This forum is turning into a s*hit talking fest, personally I would like to meet you guys in person just to see if this is how you actually are. I love my Honda, but for the few that take an innocent comment and blow it WAY out of proportion the way you have, I really dont want to be around that type of crowd. This same lack of respect is what made me quit racing Baja and go buy a civic again, But its the same s*hit, just a different crowd. Grow up, think twice about what you say, and go learn to wrench on your own f*ucking car and stop talking s*hit to the few that already know how.

Oh yeah, excuse my spelling errors, I'm an idiot, but at least I'm not a little fairy b*itch who sits on my PC ALL DAY to talk crap to some other individual that they've never seen in their life, and most likely never will. This is Kindergarten crap, and its getting really old.

Thanks for your time fellas...

yep everything i said here i would say in person. 200 HP from a D series not impossible, spending $1300 and getting 200 HP from a D series N/A, you gotta be outta your freaking mind. and really i don't even see why you bothered bringing up this old topic, posting after obviously not reading everything, then neg repping me when it really does nothing coming from you

[WVU97GS-R]

Originally Posted by Ckrue689

Honestly I hate to take sides, but I have to agree with the chthonian dude. All he said was that he was able to do it. Sure 200whp is hard to come by, but its not far out of reach. it seems apparent to me that he knows what in his motor, Personally I would be proud of 200 ponies in a D-block and be boasting about it some, so I can see why you started bashing when he wouldn't spill.

This forum is turning into a s*hit talking fest, personally I would like to meet you guys in person just to see if this is how you actually are. I love my Honda, but for the few that take an innocent comment and blow it WAY out of proportion the way you have, I really dont want to be around that type of crowd. This same lack of respect is what made me quit racing Baja and go buy a civic again, But its the same s*hit, just a different crowd. Grow up, think twice about what you say, and go learn to wrench on your own f*ucking car and stop talking s*hit to the few that already know how.

Oh yeah, excuse my spelling errors, I'm an idiot, but at least I'm not a little fairy b*itch who sits on my PC ALL DAY to talk crap to some other individual that they've never seen in their life, and most likely never will. This is Kindergarten crap, and its getting really old.

Thanks for your time fellas...

did you actually try to neg rep me because it came up neutral
and nobody said 200whp was impossible just that you can't do it for 1300 dollars. he had somebody "give" him a good portion of his build. If somebody walked up and "gave" gave you maclaren f1 for 1000 dollars would you then tell people that it's easy to get a 1.5 million dollar car for 1000 bucks? and you can't make 200whp on a stock ecu. if you use any aftermarket ecu's you'll spend anywhere from 400-1200 dollars just for that. do you know what it takes to put down almost another 100whp n/a out of a 1.5-1.6 liter 4cyl. it' takes close to 2k to put down 180-185whp with a b18c1. so no you can't build an n/a d-series to 200whp for 1300 dollars. he might've only payed 1300 for the build but somewhere along the line whether it came out his pocket or somebody elses, there was alot of money spent on his setup.

you obviously have no idea what you're talking about or you would realize how absurd it is what he said. there isn't shit talking it's mis-information prevention.

[Ckrue689]

Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R

did you actually try to neg rep me because it came up neutral
and nobody said 200whp was impossible just that you can't do it for 1300 dollars. he had somebody "give" him a good portion of his build. If somebody walked up and "gave" gave you maclaren f1 for 1000 dollars would you then tell people that it's easy to get a 1.5 million dollar car for 1000 bucks? and you can't make 200whp on a stock ecu. if you use any aftermarket ecu's you'll spend anywhere from 400-1200 dollars just for that. do you know what it takes to put down almost another 100whp n/a out of a 1.5-1.6 liter 4cyl. it' takes close to 2k to put down 180-185whp with a b18c1. so no you can't build an n/a d-series to 200whp for 1300 dollars. he might've only payed 1300 for the build but somewhere along the line whether it came out his pocket or somebody elses, there was alot of money spent on his setup.

you obviously have no idea what you're talking about or you would realize how absurd it is what he said. there isn't shit talking it's mis-information prevention.

Dude who the hell gave you the right to be such a dick. I read the whole d*amn thing and you are full of s*hit. The comment had nothing to do with you anyways seeing as how you drive a pos nissan. GROW THE F*UCK UP.

[WVU97GS-R]

Originally Posted by Ckrue689

Dude who the hell gave you the right to be such a dick. I read the whole d*amn thing and you are full of s*hit. GROW THE F*UCK UP.

please show me one ounce of proof where said anything untrue. and you're telling me to grow up when you obviously don't know what you're talking about show up revive a dead thread and trash talk everybody. please noob. you're the one talking about making 200whp with a d-series like it's easy. do you know what it takes to make 150whp with a d-series? this coming from a guy with a bolton civic dx that he thinks is fast

"You say go and it goes" ?

[mocha907]

Originally Posted by WVU97GS-R

please show me one ounce of proof where said anything untrue. and you're telling me to grow up when you obviously don't know what you're talking about show up revive a dead thread and trash talk everybody. please noob. you're the one talking about making 200whp with a d-series like it's easy. do you know what it takes to make 150whp with a d-series? this coming from a guy with a bolton civic dx that he thinks is fast

"You say go and it goes" ?

he also has a D15y8 head i live how he has a makes fun of your car when he has a maybe 125 HP DX

[Ckrue689]

That mod list is not a resume. Being that I run my own shop, Id say that I DO know what it takes to make a clean 150 ponies. I said nothing about 200 being a simple feat. But I did it on a grand, no boost, no spray. Its not like it was an overnight thing, it took me weeeeeks to build that motor. I logged all my hours when I was tuning the motor, came out to 217 hours total and with the tune I have RIGHT THIS SECOND, the car had a healthy 206.6 horses and 182.9 ft. lbs of torque. The only part on the car I had sent out was the head because I did not have the machinery to perform the valve job I wanted. EVERYTHING is custom or has been completely overhauled and Modified on this motor, even the name brand parts. I did everything on my own, and on my own time. The only "Bolt-on" was the exhaust, and even on that I had to fab up ALL the mounts and Flanges. So Im not some noob that just walked into the import scene, Ive been under the hood of a Honda since I was 14, built more motors than you can count on your hands. More than a few of the cars Ive built have been show cars, and the rest were meant for strip and were always competitive. Im not trying to tell you my life story, just giving you some facts to base your bias opinions on. Anyway, If you ever want help on your Nissan, let me know. Thats what Im here for...

thanks again boob.

[WVU97GS-R]

umm you made 206whp for 1000 dollars on a d-series motor. even if you did your own labor tuning isn't free. hell dyno time on average is easily a couple hundred bucks for a setup like that. that's almost an unstreetable motor build and you say it like it's cheap. unless you bought all your parts for 10 dollars a piece i doubt you built a 206whp d-series motor for 1000 dollars. please show me a parts list. even if you got all the parts for "cost" since you own your own shop i doubt you only spend a grand. please i'm not an idiot. put up a parts list and the money spent on those parts. even if you custom fab teh whole setup you need to get materials from somwhere. boosted d-series take about 1000-1500 dollars to make those numbers and you're doing it n/a?

[Ckrue689]

the vtec controller is what killed me, 300 bones, but the intake was tubing that I bought, bent and tig welded myself, roughly $20 for that, ALL the exhaust, with the exception of the header, was tubing that I bought, bent and tig welded myself. about $30 for that, the pistons and rods were app. $200, The Y8 head I bought from a wrecking yard for $50, Crane cam set me back 200+100 for valves and springs. Head gasket and Intake manifold gasket was about 100. Now, the greddy can and the Filter were parts I had in my shop, so if you want to include that, then it cost me 1400 to build. Ill admit it took forever to do all the machine work but I did the damn thing. Now none of this includes the electrical bill or the Hundreds and Hundreds of dollars spent on mexican food. But if you included those, well then No I did not build it on a grand.