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04-06-2008, 12:30 PM
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Noob
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: I live in California, Murrieta
Posts: 11
Car: 1998 Honda Civic HX, with a D16y5 and 5 speed manual
Mods: Magnaflow exhuast, short ram intake, Skunk2 intake Manifold (pro series)
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Building a NA engine.
well thanks for the info...but im not willing to put another engine in the car...not enough funds for that, i have only about $1200 to spend on it.
i would like a list of a few more parts that will get some more power out of the car. I talked to a few people and they say to put; cams,high compresion pistons and a throttle body....all this is for time attack, autocross and canyon runs.
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04-06-2008, 07:37 PM
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SH Virus
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 4,528
Car: 2004 Explorer, '96 Integra SE *DEAD*, 1998 Civic DX Boosted @ 14psi
Mods: fuggin' your mom.
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Welcome to SHO.
This question has been asked more than 3 times in the past week or 2.
Run a search and you will find out EVERYTHING you need to know.
Unfortunately to get a decent amount of power out of the D-series engine you have to either boost it, or throw thousands and thousands of dollars into it (if planning to keep it N/A)
Even with the mods you have now, you're lucky to get 15whp out of it.
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04-06-2008, 08:15 PM
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SuperHonda Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: middle GA
Posts: 108
Car: 2000 civic hatch (b16a)
Mods: skunk2 coilovers, rota slipstreams, integra brakes, jdm b16a, JVTR header, intake, 2.5" exhaust w/ obx twin loop muffler,...,jdm ek9 gauge cluster, shift boot, fog lights,and the list goes on and on...
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a d16y5 isnt the best d-series to mod anyways. its a vtec-e (economy). it runs on 12 valves instead of 16 under 2500rpms
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04-06-2008, 08:22 PM
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SH Virus
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 4,528
Car: 2004 Explorer, '96 Integra SE *DEAD*, 1998 Civic DX Boosted @ 14psi
Mods: fuggin' your mom.
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Originally Posted by 2000civichatch
it runs on 12 valves instead of 16 under 2500rpms
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Which can be overridden.
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04-06-2008, 09:00 PM
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SuperHonda Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: middle GA
Posts: 108
Car: 2000 civic hatch (b16a)
Mods: skunk2 coilovers, rota slipstreams, integra brakes, jdm b16a, JVTR header, intake, 2.5" exhaust w/ obx twin loop muffler,...,jdm ek9 gauge cluster, shift boot, fog lights,and the list goes on and on...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jo060
Which can be overridden.
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yea i know but isnt that more trouble than its worth?
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04-06-2008, 09:30 PM
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Black Cloud
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Plymouth Meeting Pa
Posts: 13,638
Car: 1989 240sx
Mods: SR20DET,3" exhaust from the turbo, AFC, Greddy RS B.O.V., CP pistons, greddy head gasket, nismo clutch, tie rods, springs, shocks, vlsd,etc
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Originally Posted by Tyler2453
I am building a NA engine for my honda. I already have exhaust, intake, intake manifold on a D16y5 engine. I would like to keep going with it....let me know what i should do next
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save yourself the headache and get a better motor
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04-06-2008, 09:31 PM
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Black Cloud
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Plymouth Meeting Pa
Posts: 13,638
Car: 1989 240sx
Mods: SR20DET,3" exhaust from the turbo, AFC, Greddy RS B.O.V., CP pistons, greddy head gasket, nismo clutch, tie rods, springs, shocks, vlsd,etc
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jo060
Welcome to SHO.
This question has been asked more than 3 times in the past week or 2.
Run a search and you will find out EVERYTHING you need to know.
Unfortunately to get a decent amount of power out of the D-series engine you have to either boost it, or throw thousands and thousands of dollars into it (if planning to keep it N/A)
Even with the mods you have now, you're lucky to not lose 15whp out of it.
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fixed that for you
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04-07-2008, 07:07 AM
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SH Virus
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 4,528
Car: 2004 Explorer, '96 Integra SE *DEAD*, 1998 Civic DX Boosted @ 14psi
Mods: fuggin' your mom.
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thanks honey-bunny
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04-07-2008, 07:07 AM
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SH Virus
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 4,528
Car: 2004 Explorer, '96 Integra SE *DEAD*, 1998 Civic DX Boosted @ 14psi
Mods: fuggin' your mom.
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Originally Posted by 2000civichatch
yea i know but isnt that more trouble than its worth?
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deppends who you ask.
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04-07-2008, 07:48 AM
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Black Cloud
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Plymouth Meeting Pa
Posts: 13,638
Car: 1989 240sx
Mods: SR20DET,3" exhaust from the turbo, AFC, Greddy RS B.O.V., CP pistons, greddy head gasket, nismo clutch, tie rods, springs, shocks, vlsd,etc
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Originally Posted by Jo060
thanks honey-bunny
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anytime baby bear. just swap the damn motor for the price it would cost to make any real power with that d-series. d-series n/a is pointless and a waste of time. it was built for pure economy. the price it would take to make any real hp n/a with that motor you could buy and build another car that would actualy go fast. unless you boost that thing. give up on any real gains
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04-07-2008, 05:45 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 49
Car: 2000 Civic EX
Mods: Gearspeed LSD tranny, Clutchmaster Stage3 Fidanza, solid mounts, header, full exhaust, high-flow cat, intake, Drag DR-11s, cross-drilled and slotted rotors, SPC suspension pieces, strut bar, 2" drop, built head, Skunk2 intake manifold, AEM fuel rail and FPR, Hondata S200
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I only spent about $1300 on my N/A build. I put more money into my drivetrain than the motor. And now I have a motor that revs to 9800 and is 200+whp
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04-07-2008, 06:24 PM
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Black Cloud
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Plymouth Meeting Pa
Posts: 13,638
Car: 1989 240sx
Mods: SR20DET,3" exhaust from the turbo, AFC, Greddy RS B.O.V., CP pistons, greddy head gasket, nismo clutch, tie rods, springs, shocks, vlsd,etc
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Originally Posted by chthonian
I only spent about $1300 on my N/A build. I put more money into my drivetrain than the motor. And now I have a motor that revs to 9800 and is 200+whp
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you spent 1300 dollars on you're n/a d-series and you're making 200whp? show me a dyno graph. the only thing you have listed is i/h/e, a fuel rail, intake manifold fpr and s200. you have a built head? what do you have? you would need a cam high ass compression ratio and a nice tune and some serious valve work to pull 200whp out of a d-series. and all the mods you listed prior to a built head exceed 1300 dollars.
200whp pretty much unstreetable with that motor
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04-07-2008, 06:31 PM
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SH Virus
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 4,528
Car: 2004 Explorer, '96 Integra SE *DEAD*, 1998 Civic DX Boosted @ 14psi
Mods: fuggin' your mom.
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Yeah, I find that hard to believe.
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