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07-23-2008, 07:19 AM
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S Zero Racer
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New to the D series game
I recently purchased a 91 CRX si with a motor that burns oil kinda bad.
I plan on just swapping motors rather than rebuilding the current one. The guy who's selling me the car has a freind of his that has a JDM D15B VTEC, think some ppl call it the mini-me or something?  for sale for $300.
Deal or no deal?
I know I'm going to need a VTEC ECU of some sort as the stock Si box won't cut it, but are there any other snags dropping this in? I can't think of any.
If this isnt a good choice, I can find another d series I am sure, I just need it to be economical and run well, this car will be my daily, not a race car or anything.
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1.) 1994 Integra GSR (It's finally done!! )MODS: 60mm JDM Tanebe Medalion Exaust, Spoon Sports testpipe, Magnacore 7.5mm Ignition wires, Hankook Ventus tires, ITR Header, AEM Cold Air Intake, Amber Headlight tint, Prelude sunroof visor, ITR Spoiler, ITR shift knob, H&R Sport springs, Koni Yellow adjustable shocks, Stoptech Stainless steel lines, Brembo pads, Energy suspension poly bushing kit
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07-23-2008, 07:43 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mohntn, PA
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Car: 1988 CRX SI
Mods: D15B2 w/PM6: pacesetter headers, tanabe 2 1/4 exhaust system, ZC tranmission, B&M short shifter, "Custom Shift Linkage", "aftermarket" intake, "8 yr old" tanabe lowering springs
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this motor is a stock vtec jdm civic motor (92-95) so its not rly a mini me..you can use any vtec ecu...plug n play pretty much.. i think that motor is obd1 though so youll need a conversion harness
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07-23-2008, 07:54 AM
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S Zero Racer
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Originally Posted by EnJoiThaRex
this motor is a stock vtec jdm civic motor (92-95) so its not rly a mini me..you can use any vtec ecu...plug n play pretty much.. i think that motor is obd1 though so youll need a conversion harness
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Shouldn't the CRX already be OBD 1? I don't think I'll have to convert anything there.
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1.) 1994 Integra GSR (It's finally done!! )MODS: 60mm JDM Tanebe Medalion Exaust, Spoon Sports testpipe, Magnacore 7.5mm Ignition wires, Hankook Ventus tires, ITR Header, AEM Cold Air Intake, Amber Headlight tint, Prelude sunroof visor, ITR Spoiler, ITR shift knob, H&R Sport springs, Koni Yellow adjustable shocks, Stoptech Stainless steel lines, Brembo pads, Energy suspension poly bushing kit
2.) 1991 Honda CR-X HF the new daily driver, stock for now, waiting for a motor swap!
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07-23-2008, 04:03 PM
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GunMetal Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mohntn, PA
Posts: 597
Car: 1988 CRX SI
Mods: D15B2 w/PM6: pacesetter headers, tanabe 2 1/4 exhaust system, ZC tranmission, B&M short shifter, "Custom Shift Linkage", "aftermarket" intake, "8 yr old" tanabe lowering springs
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Originally Posted by MQTGSR
Shouldn't the CRX already be OBD 1? I don't think I'll have to convert anything there.
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no, general rule. 88-91 Obd0. 92-95 Obd1. 96+ obd2.
Obd1 and Obd0 are not the same. i think you can go to a site called rywire.com or something and they sell conversion harnesses.
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07-23-2008, 07:48 PM
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S Zero Racer
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oh yeah, obd 0, forgot about that.
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My rides:
1.) 1994 Integra GSR (It's finally done!! )MODS: 60mm JDM Tanebe Medalion Exaust, Spoon Sports testpipe, Magnacore 7.5mm Ignition wires, Hankook Ventus tires, ITR Header, AEM Cold Air Intake, Amber Headlight tint, Prelude sunroof visor, ITR Spoiler, ITR shift knob, H&R Sport springs, Koni Yellow adjustable shocks, Stoptech Stainless steel lines, Brembo pads, Energy suspension poly bushing kit
2.) 1991 Honda CR-X HF the new daily driver, stock for now, waiting for a motor swap!
Member of NMU Car club - Holy Shift!
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07-23-2008, 08:15 PM
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Im not all that savy on hondas yet, but I think you will need a P28 ecu to run vtec?
Also I think d16z6's can be found for Around that price also?
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07-23-2008, 08:50 PM
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SuperHonda Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: my house in FL
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Car: 2003 Civic EX
Mods: K & N typhoon air intake, custom 2.25' exhaust, custom headers wrapped up... looking to turbo soon... with a write up!
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id get a d16 or d17... more expensive but they are better imho...
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07-24-2008, 04:01 AM
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S Zero Racer
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Originally Posted by poopflingr1
id get a d16 or d17... more expensive but they are better imho...
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This isnt a go-fast yet, I just want something to get me some good MPG's and that is cheap. B swap and the like are out.
As for the ECU, Any VTEC ECU should work to my knowledge but the p72's and B16 ECU's will make it run rich as fuck from what I read.
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My rides:
1.) 1994 Integra GSR (It's finally done!! )MODS: 60mm JDM Tanebe Medalion Exaust, Spoon Sports testpipe, Magnacore 7.5mm Ignition wires, Hankook Ventus tires, ITR Header, AEM Cold Air Intake, Amber Headlight tint, Prelude sunroof visor, ITR Spoiler, ITR shift knob, H&R Sport springs, Koni Yellow adjustable shocks, Stoptech Stainless steel lines, Brembo pads, Energy suspension poly bushing kit
2.) 1991 Honda CR-X HF the new daily driver, stock for now, waiting for a motor swap!
Member of NMU Car club - Holy Shift!
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07-24-2008, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by poopflingr1
id get a d16 or d17... more expensive but they are better imho...
or... a b or k series. |
why the fuck would you get a d17
if you dont know what you are talking about then dont post
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07-24-2008, 09:21 AM
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SuperHonda Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Car: 2003 Civic EX
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the d17 isnt a bad engine... the 7th gen isnt that great of a car, but the engine isnt bad... just cuz its newer than a d16 and people havnt been modding them for 10 years doesn't mean they arent good.
my D17A2
also, a B series gets pretty good mileage... like... 30 something i do believe.
check this guys 7th gen... he swapped to a D17A2 and it took off from there 
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07-24-2008, 09:47 AM
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Black Cloud
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Plymouth Meeting Pa
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Car: 1989 240sx
Mods: SR20DET,3" exhaust from the turbo, AFC, Greddy RS B.O.V., CP pistons, greddy head gasket, nismo clutch, tie rods, springs, shocks, vlsd,etc
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Originally Posted by poopflingr1
the d17 isnt a bad engine... the 7th gen isnt that great of a car, but the engine isnt bad... just cuz its newer than a d16 and people havnt been modding them for 10 years doesn't mean they arent good.
my D17A2
also, a B series gets pretty good mileage... like... 30 something i do believe.
check this guys 7th gen... he swapped to a D17A2 and it took off from there
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umm that car came stock with a d17........
actually it's the worst of the FI d-series since it has the least aftermerket support. and why would you pay the extra money for .1 liters and worse support? not that's bad but the i'd take the d16 over it. but a t3/t4 57 trim on any motor will make power.
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07-24-2008, 10:44 AM
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SuperHonda Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Car: 2003 Civic EX
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ya, but i was just throwing it out there.
he wants a DD, not a race car, so why not? lol
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07-24-2008, 11:13 AM
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Black Cloud
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Plymouth Meeting Pa
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Car: 1989 240sx
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it's more expensive and makes teh same power with less aftermarket than a d16. a bigger aftermarket means you have a broader section of replacement parts to choose from which give you different pricing options. it's just not worht the money. he'd be better off getting a used b18b.
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Originally Posted by HonduhDave
He's not Japanese, he was referring to the languages he can speak. He's capable of speaking English, can probably curse and ask for a beer in Spanish and has heard his girl moan in Japanese in bed |
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07-24-2008, 03:15 PM
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ive never even heard of anyone swapping a d17 into any kind of civic less of a 7th gen
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