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Old 03-03-2004, 03:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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tech wrench b16a2@7psi setup?

i'm new here and i've already got some questions:
i've got a delsol with a b16a2 engine
i've got a turbo from a audi 1.8t 20v engine
i've got a fuel pressure regulator and i've got rid of the cat
i want to boost it with something like6 or 7psi.
i want it to be a safe street setup without a burning checkengine light.
bigger injectors are about 90dollar each in my country
and a bigger fuel pump like a wallbro is extreme expensive in holland. a vafc from apexi costs about 400. so what do i really need to boost safely?
what do you guys reccoment?
does the standart ecu do the trick on lowboost?
howmany hp does a standert b16a2 make in the usa?160 in europe.
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Old 03-03-2004, 04:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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same hp numbers here.....
you could probably get away just using FMU....Boost dependant fuel pressure regulaor......they work great up to 8psi....and they're included in almost every turbo kit you can buy, brand turbo kits mostly run 7-8psi...everything else can stay stock

What sucks id that you already dished your money out for an upgraded fuel regulator.....and now you got to replace it with another one.......and no you can't keep yours....you need one that increases fuel pressure when the boost increases...
just go to ebay and type VORTECH FMU......it's gotta be 10:1 or 12:1 ratio
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Old 03-04-2004, 08:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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[quote]Originally posted by RedlinePrelude
[b]same hp numbers here.....
you could probably get away just using FMU....Boost dependant fuel pressure regulaor......they work great up to 8psi....

First off all thanks for your reply!
But everybody here says that a fmu fucks up your engine? And i don't think i can buy this in a tuningshop in my country! i asked for it but they didn't even now what a fmu was! Tuning a honda is fucked up in holland!!!!!!

If i make some more fuel pressure and i get a apexi vafc does that do the trick? or do i need some 450cc's as well?
And doesn't the ecu run into an error?
Is it hard to install a vafc?And to get the right settings?i understand that a good tuningcompany should program it but i don't trust these bumper installers over here in holland!
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Old 03-06-2004, 10:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 03-06-2004, 04:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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if you get an fmu, get one where the ratio is adjustable AND the baseline fuel pressure is adjustible....a 10:1 ratio seems high...if it fucked up there car it prob waswnt tuned right...its all in the tuning, especially high comp turbo
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[quote]Originally posted by dnbruut
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same hp numbers here.....
you could probably get away just using FMU....Boost dependant fuel pressure regulaor......they work great up to 8psi....

First off all thanks for your reply!
But everybody here says that a fmu fucks up your engine? And i don't think i can buy this in a tuningshop in my country! i asked for it but they didn't even now what a fmu was! Tuning a honda is fucked up in holland!!!!!!

If i make some more fuel pressure and i get a apexi vafc does that do the trick? or do i need some 450cc's as well?
And doesn't the ecu run into an error?
Is it hard to install a vafc?And to get the right settings?i understand that a good tuningcompany should program it but i don't trust these bumper installers over here in holland!
thanks!
I'm selling a fmu if your interested. I'm using it on my b16a rite now.
They are safe if you keep the boost low. Stock injectors 5psi or so, upgrade to 310's (have those too for sale) you can get by with about 8-9psi.
If you go with a vafc you will need larger 450cc injectors to make it run rite, and to get the proper settings you'll need to get on a dyno. you could get some generic settings from others, but who knows how it will work on your car, every car is different.
I've been runing 9psi for the past year using the fmu,fields sfc (like a vafc) 310cc injectors and 255lph intank fuel pump.
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Old 03-06-2004, 08:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
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regardless of what you do, you'll want the dyno time to tune it right, thats the MOST important part that is often overlooked, 100 bucks is nothing if it saves you from detonation
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regardless of what you do, you'll want the dyno time to tune it right, thats the MOST important part that is often overlooked, 100 bucks is nothing if it saves you from detonation
If it can be tuned.
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ok so a fmu works great on low boost but i can't buy your fmu(b16ahybrid) because i live in Holland! And the (body-kit)tuners over here in holland don't know what a fmu is! So i think i'll go with a vafc.
But does anybody know where i can get injectors from? Are all eclipse injectors 450cc? And a eclipse (or another car) fuelpump? Because they are fu#%^ing expensive in holland!
And i have read that some of you are charging 10psi and over on a stock b16a2 but is it possible with a 10.5/1 compression?
Thanks!
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ok so a fmu works great on low boost but i can't buy your fmu(b16ahybrid) because i live in Holland! And the (body-kit)tuners over here in holland don't know what a fmu is! So i think i'll go with a vafc.
But does anybody know where i can get injectors from? Are all eclipse injectors 450cc? And a eclipse (or another car) fuelpump? Because they are fu#%^ing expensive in holland!
And i have read that some of you are charging 10psi and over on a stock b16a2 but is it possible with a 10.5/1 compression?
Thanks!
LOL. look at vortecs website, it will tell you all about it.

It's not really the amount (psi) of boost but the amount of power your making.
Hopefull next week I'll be tuned and making about 275whp. I figure with my set-up it's going to take about 12psi. If you have your tuning in check (hondata,etc) you should be fine making that kind of power. I made 226whp on my old set-up and that was at 9psi. It ran like a champ but i need more power. .....
Remember 10psi on a 15g isn't the same as 10psi on say a sc61. Your going to make a lot more power with the larger turbo Thus more stress on your engine. It's going to take 15psi on the 15g to make the same as sc61 at 10psi.
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