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HONDAnSHO · 03-12-2004, 02:01 AM

whats my best option for stock motor. I would love to go Turbonetics or Garret, but what about GReddy or Edlebrock.
Which one has least Lag, longer lasting, prices (Ebay), Reputation.

I AM going turbo in a month and I just dont want to get screwed!
I have 70k on my motor. also going MSD and Hondata! Does that seem ok?

Thanks for all your help and opinions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

prelude97sh · 03-12-2004, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by HONDAnSHO
whats my best option for stock motor. I would love to go Turbonetics or Garret, but what about GReddy or Edlebrock.
Which one has least Lag, longer lasting, prices (Ebay), Reputation.

I AM going turbo in a month and I just dont want to get screwed!
I have 70k on my motor. also going MSD and Hondata! Does that seem ok?

Thanks for all your help and opinions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

ask yourself this question... is it really worth boosting a dseries? id rather swap in a gsr motor and have a reliable car.

b16ahybrid · 03-12-2004, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by prelude97sh
ask yourself this question... is it really worth boosting a dseries? id rather swap in a gsr motor and have a reliable car.

Not relaible how?I've put well over 60K miles on my car boosted with no reliability problems at all .
Hondata tuned, it's going to run like a factory boosted car, if he has a good tuner.

ask yourself this, is it worth posting ignorant reply's?

Anyways to answer your question, the brand of turbo won't determin the lag, it's the size of the turbo. All the kits you listed are good. If you get a kit you won't really have much lag, they are designed for the everyday driver that wants a compromise between power and spool. Although the greddy kit uses the smallest turbo, there for it will have the least lag.
What kind of power are you looing for?

prelude97sh · 03-12-2004, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by b16ahybrid
Not relaible how?I've put well over 60K miles on my car boosted with no reliability problems at all .
Hondata tuned, it's going to run like a factory boosted car, if he has a good tuner.

ask yourself this, is it worth posting ignorant reply's?

Anyways to answer your question, the brand of turbo won't determin the lag, it's the size of the turbo. All the kits you listed are good. If you get a kit you won't really have much lag, they are designed for the everyday driver that wants a compromise between power and spool. Although the greddy kit uses the smallest turbo, there for it will have the least lag.
What kind of power are you looing for?

maybe you should realize that you have no comprehension skills. A boosted dseries(7psi) on stock internals will run 15's? maybe 14's? why not just swap in a b18 gsr motor and have a reliable NA car? hondas were never built for boost, you cannot deny that adding additonal stress to the engine will increase wear and tear and lead to reliabilty issues. you might be one of the lucky individuals, however there are alot of ppl that have blown their motors running low amounts of boost with the suggested methods of preventing detonation.

ExViTermini · 03-12-2004, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by prelude97sh
maybe you should realize that you have no comprehension skills. A boosted dseries(7psi) on stock internals will run 15's? maybe 14's? why not just swap in a b18 gsr motor and have a reliable NA car? hondas were never built for boost, you cannot deny that adding additonal stress to the engine will increase wear and tear and lead to reliabilty issues. you might be one of the lucky individuals, however there are alot of ppl that have blown their motors running low amounts of boost with the suggested methods of preventing detonation.

yes...unfortunately he is right..no matter how much we dont want to believe it:noo

prelude97sh · 03-12-2004, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by E36 ///M3
yes...unfortunately he is right..no matter how much we dont want to believe it:noo

i myself was thinking about getting the fmax kit, however it just seems too risky. it made me cry

HONDAnSHO · 03-12-2004, 02:38 PM

im not trying to be the fastest civic in so cal. I really want about 160-70 at the wheels. mid to low 15s would be fine.

I really just want the car to handle (autocross), But need some speed behind it too.

prelude97sh · 03-12-2004, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by HONDAnSHO
im not trying to be the fastest civic in so cal. I really want about 160-70 at the wheels. mid to low 15s would be fine.

I really just want the car to handle (autocross), But need some speed behind it too.

i think an engine swap would be more worthwhile then.

Hybrid Fever · 03-12-2004, 03:07 PM

How can anyone be satisfied with low 15s?

prelude97sh · 03-12-2004, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by Hybrid Fever
How can anyone be satisfied with low 15s?

considering most civics are in the 16's or higher 15's seem fast. Although i consider a 15 sec car not too be fast really(my car is a low 15 sec car), the need for speed is never ending.

CRX 2 NV · 03-13-2004, 03:46 AM

what kind of honda are we talking about here? my CRX will run high 13's with 10psi on a stock d series

95accordlx · 03-13-2004, 05:52 AM

Thers a boosted d series in a 95 civic coupe that runs 13s at my job. He was running on stock internals till his pistons went........i advise that u get at least forged pistons.

xtremefusion · 03-13-2004, 02:58 PM

I've seen people run mid to high 14's with a greddy kit at stock psi (6) on a stock motor. Turboing a d series isn't that bad at all, check out www.turbod16.com which should provide more helpful answers to your questions.

As for reliability, the D series can still be reliable, that will depend on the tuning, how hard you drive it, boost levels, etc. A stock D16z6 or y8 can handle 10 lbs of boost on a stock motor with a really good tune.

In my opinion, it is better to boost a D than to swap to a B, unless you are looking for some major WHP, which in this case swap a GSR motor and turbo it.

With a turbo D, you will be roasting swapped cars left and right, unless they are turbod.

SIcSOL · 03-13-2004, 05:38 PM

man from personal experience i drive a z6 sol si with 208000 miles on it boosting 8 pounds daily pusing 200 hp out of the stock configuration with VAFC hack... reliabilty is porptional to the way you have driven the car in the past, how you are going to drive it in the future, and the tune. Miles dont matter if the car has been taken care of..

prelude97sh · 03-13-2004, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by xtremefusion
I've seen people run mid to high 14's with a greddy kit at stock psi (6) on a stock motor. Turboing a d series isn't that bad at all, check out www.turbod16.com which should provide more helpful answers to your questions.

As for reliability, the D series can still be reliable, that will depend on the tuning, how hard you drive it, boost levels, etc. A stock D16z6 or y8 can handle 10 lbs of boost on a stock motor with a really good tune.

In my opinion, it is better to boost a D than to swap to a B, unless you are looking for some major WHP, which in this case swap a GSR motor and turbo it. With a turbo D, you will be roasting swapped cars left and right, unless they are turbod.

i woulda thought a civic with a gsr motor would be running high 14's?