Go Back   Honda Forum / Acura Forum - SuperHonda.com > Performance - Tech > ECU & Fuel System
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Mark Forums Read

       
SuperHonda.com is the premier Honda Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads. Please Register - It's Free!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-06-2008, 03:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
Brand Spanking Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6
Car:
Mods:
xtnod is on a distinguished road
Just VTEC engage point?

I was just wondering, can I just get a ECU chipped to get a earlier VTEC engagement or would I need to do a lot more things to the engine?
xtnod is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-06-2008, 04:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
CarbonSword Ninja
 
j.steimer04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 1,397
Car: 2004 Civic EX 4dr
Mods: Must have uber mod access to view.
j.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapy
U would need a Vtec controller no matter what.
__________________

EP3's ARE GHEY!!!
j.steimer04 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2008, 08:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
SH Silver
 
92civic_hatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: new hampshire
Posts: 246
Car: 1992 civic vx hatch
Mods: d16z6 swap w/ bolt ons
92civic_hatch In the rep troposphere92civic_hatch In the rep troposphere92civic_hatch In the rep troposphere92civic_hatch In the rep troposphere92civic_hatch In the rep troposphere92civic_hatch In the rep troposphere92civic_hatch In the rep troposphere92civic_hatch In the rep troposphere92civic_hatch In the rep troposphere92civic_hatch In the rep troposphere92civic_hatch In the rep troposphere
vtec is supposed to be used in high rpm's. making vtec engage earlier does not necessarily make your car faster, if thats your intent.
92civic_hatch is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2008, 09:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
Brand Spanking Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3
Car:
Mods:
97accordh22 is an unknown quantity at this point
i would say get a apex vtech controller i have on my 97 accord with the h22 swap and i love it.. i have mine kick in at 5100 to 9200

hell for the right price u can buy mine and i will just get my computer reprogramed
97accordh22 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2008, 01:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
Digital Blueprint
 
CapnToll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, CAN
Posts: 1,811
Car: 1996 Integra SE
Mods: See the sig.
CapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapy
With no supporting mods done to your motor, getting VTEC to engage earlier will mess up your powerband, and more than likely make it feel a good deal slower.

So don't worry about that now. What are you reallllly looking for?
__________________
1996 Acura Integra SE



Motor: BC0022 Cams, Crower V/T, AEM Cam Gears, Comptech Icebox, Skunk2 I/M w/ Hondata gasket, DC-S 4-2-1 Header, 2.07" Brullen Cat-Back, B&M FPR, FAL Rad/AC Fans.
Tuning: UBERDATA, FJO Racing Wideband AFR System/Gauge
Security: Computer chip ignition Immobilizer, Intrusion alarm, Glass break alarm, and of course... THE BAR!!

Old Dyno: 175whp @ 7500 RPM / 135wtq @ 7000 RPM........ERTW

2001 Toyota Highlander V6 4WD - Winter Car - 220bhp / 222tq Bone Stock Baby!
CapnToll is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2008, 01:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
Black Cloud
 
clayton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: baton rouge, LA
Posts: 13,084
Car: '06 4runner, '01 F350, '83 cj7, '90 DA6 (x2)
Mods: yes, please.
clayton you're still here?clayton you're still here?clayton you're still here?clayton you're still here?clayton you're still here?clayton you're still here?clayton you're still here?clayton you're still here?clayton you're still here?clayton you're still here?clayton you're still here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by 97accordh22 View Post
i would say get a apex vtech controller i have on my 97 accord with the h22 swap and i love it.. i have mine kick in at 5100 to 9200

hell for the right price u can buy mine and i will just get my computer reprogramed
you have a vtech controller? where'd you get it?
__________________
-clay long www.myspace.com/mrlongtoyou

Quote:
Originally Posted by B-rex;
Swap a motor from a s2k in that 240 then you will have a beast!!!
clayton is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2008, 02:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
CarbonSword Ninja
 
j.steimer04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 1,397
Car: 2004 Civic EX 4dr
Mods: Must have uber mod access to view.
j.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapyj.steimer04 needs rep therapy
Long live the V-TECH
__________________

EP3's ARE GHEY!!!
j.steimer04 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2008, 11:57 AM   #8 (permalink)
Brand Spanking Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6
Car:
Mods:
xtnod is on a distinguished road
I am not aiming for anything really lol. Was jsut a question I had out of the air.

But I guess since this thread is more popular I'll aks it here.

Anyone know how to tell what year a JDM engine is? They said the casting on the back...

all I saw was P30 and osme other numbers... I know P30 is a 92-95 ECU Unless I am wrong...
xtnod is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2008, 11:48 AM   #9 (permalink)
Cypher Wave
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posts: 21,286
Car:
Mods: h23vtec
98vtec needs rep therapy98vtec needs rep therapy98vtec needs rep therapy98vtec needs rep therapy98vtec needs rep therapy98vtec needs rep therapy98vtec needs rep therapy98vtec needs rep therapy98vtec needs rep therapy98vtec needs rep therapy98vtec needs rep therapy
Quote:
Originally Posted by CapnToll View Post
With no supporting mods done to your motor, getting VTEC to engage earlier will mess up your powerband, and more than likely make it feel a good deal slower.

So don't worry about that now. What are you reallllly looking for?
no necessarily. Vtec can usually be set lower on most the DOHC vtec models because vtec was a honda market. It's something they used to sell their cars. If vtec was perfect from the factory, you wouldnt be able to feel it. If you are selling a car for its vtec, you better let people feel that its there. So you set it a little higher so that the low cam power drops off, then the vtec cam switches over and creates a huge power increase. That drop in power from the low and and surge of power with the high cam is what you "feel". With fine tuned motors, you dont feel the engagement point because it is set at the low cams peak power which makes up for the discrepancy in power at the vtec crossover in stock form.

this is just the typical case tho. Not all cases. Different intake and exhaust modifications will change where vtec needs to be.

Beyond that, you dont want to just change the vtec crossover and not make the respectable changes in fuel and ignition (or just fuel if you dont have proper engine management)
98vtec is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2008, 01:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
Digital Blueprint
 
CapnToll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, CAN
Posts: 1,811
Car: 1996 Integra SE
Mods: See the sig.
CapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapyCapnToll needs rep therapy
Does this have anything to do with why the secondaries open up AFTER VTEC engages (which I just read; I had always thought the secondaries would open up Before VTEC so the better flow is already coming in when VTEC does engage)? Although I guess you'd lose a bit of power with that extra airflow when you're still on the smaller cam profile.
__________________
1996 Acura Integra SE



Motor: BC0022 Cams, Crower V/T, AEM Cam Gears, Comptech Icebox, Skunk2 I/M w/ Hondata gasket, DC-S 4-2-1 Header, 2.07" Brullen Cat-Back, B&M FPR, FAL Rad/AC Fans.
Tuning: UBERDATA, FJO Racing Wideband AFR System/Gauge
Security: Computer chip ignition Immobilizer, Intrusion alarm, Glass break alarm, and of course... THE BAR!!

Old Dyno: 175whp @ 7500 RPM / 135wtq @ 7000 RPM........ERTW

2001 Toyota Highlander V6 4WD - Winter Car - 220bhp / 222tq Bone Stock Baby!
CapnToll is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» Search Used Cars
Search for used vehicles by ZIP, please enter Zipcode below:
Google Links

» Wheel & Tire Center

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Sponsors

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0 RC2

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:38 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
  • AutoForums.com
  • Truck
  • European
  • Import
  • Domestic
  • Manufacturer

AutoForums.com is the premier network of enthusiast-owned enthusiast-operated automotive communities.
We operate more than 100 automotive forums where our users consult peers for shopping information and advice, and share experiences and opinions as a community.

Visit AutoForums.com today.

For advertising information, please visit our AutoForums.com website and Contact Us, or send an email message to sales@autoforums.com.