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Old 07-15-2005, 07:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A/C not so cold...replace freon???

My civic EX (98) has 93,000 miles and the ac just isn't that cold. Could it be that I need to replace my freon? How do I do that? What else would help this?
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Old 07-15-2005, 09:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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refill your AC if you havn't already.
it's best to empty your AC piping system then fill it agian from the empty.

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And this may be stupid, but what kind of freon do I fill it with, and where can I get it?
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Old 07-15-2005, 09:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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See what type of ac unit you have (it should say on the unit itself), I actually saw some refill kits at Target. One of those should work, I imagine. I think they were like $30-$40 bucks. If you know what you're doing, you could save yourself some money.
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Old 07-15-2005, 11:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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See what type of ac unit you have (it should say on the unit itself), I actually saw some refill kits at Target. One of those should work, I imagine. I think they were like $30-$40 bucks. If you know what you're doing, you could save yourself some money.
well, it's good to empty your whole system when your AC isn't all that cold.

reason being..
your car is from late 90's, assuming it's in between 97 to 99 ish.
and from then to now, you probably didn't get a AC changed, instead, probably just refilled it, or didn't even touch it at all.

if that's the case, you are using the AC gas from almost 10 years ago. k

so, for the sake of the car, empty and refill it

and that can of refill you are talking about does cost around 30~40 dollors like you said.

but with that money and about around $60, u can get the AC exchange like it's brand new

i say go for the empty and refill at auto shops like grease monkey
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could have a bad condenser too

if the refill doesn't fix it, then i'd lean toward that.....when a condenser gets clogged or just quits doing it's thing (getting rid of heat in the system) then you get warmer air


hondas are notorious for this from the mid 90's on......before that, it's not so bad

our old 97 accord ex suffered from a clogged condenser.....everything else on the car was immaculate
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well, it's good to empty your whole system when your AC isn't all that cold.

reason being..
your car is from late 90's, assuming it's in between 97 to 99 ish.
and from then to now, you probably didn't get a AC changed, instead, probably just refilled it, or didn't even touch it at all.

if that's the case, you are using the AC gas from almost 10 years ago. k

so, for the sake of the car, empty and refill it

and that can of refill you are talking about does cost around 30~40 dollors like you said.

but with that money and about around $60, u can get the AC exchange like it's brand new

i say go for the empty and refill at auto shops like grease monkey
Well, I really don't know what I am doing, so Grease monkey is sounding like the way to go...unless there is a DIY on how to flush and fill AC fluid.
I've looked on here, but couldn't find one.
Man, I hope my condenser is ok...that would suck to replace that mug. :bh
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Well, I really don't know what I am doing, so Grease monkey is sounding like the way to go...unless there is a DIY on how to flush and fill AC fluid.
AC isn't a fluid
it's form of a gas, almost like a propain gas

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AC isn't a fluid
it's form of a gas, almost like a propain gas

go grease monkey mang..
deadly gas at that, and its r-34 refrigerant, not freon anymore
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deadly gas at that, and its r-34 refrigerant, not freon anymore
Proving my point perfectly that I am clueless on this topic...Grease Monkey here I come!
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Proving my point perfectly that I am clueless on this topic...Grease Monkey here I come!
Thanks, folks!! :byye

tell me how long it took.
i wasn't employeed at Grease Monkey, but I do hang around there alot.
i know all the menagers and even the store owner :w00t
when they get no cars and maybe 1 car an hour, i do all the work.

and when I did the AC exchance with BG mashine, it took me about 30 mins to do the whole process :clap

well, and free service to my car as well :evil
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deadly gas at that, and its r-34 refrigerant, not freon anymore
r-134a is freon....


also, the problem with my ac being warm, is that heat from the header is soaking into the low side line.

You cant touch either the high, or the low lines after running the car even for a few minutes. In fact, the low side is hotter, and Im assuming its because its closer to the header than the high. This is my only guess because the pressure is at 36psi with the compressor running.

Fan turns on and everything works. Just the ac is warm, and both lines are hot. Now mind you, this is only after driving. Otherwise, the lines are cool. So I guess my only option is to wrap the lines with an insulator, and wrap the header with heat wrap.
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r-134a is freon....
i knew r-34 was right, but not quite right...
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get it checked out
it could be
bad compressor
bad expansion valve
clogged a/c filter..

getting it tested and seeing the pressure levels in the low and high side will help determine your problem
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