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WOW THOSE OFFICIAL PICS!!! WOW!! I'M ALLOWED TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE I ACTUALLY AM YELLING BECAUSE I'M EXCITED BECAUSE IT looks wicked!!!

p.s. where'd you get them from? I need bigger versions so I can make it my desktop
 

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The new Civic Si could return Honda to the glory days of the late ’80s and early ’90s when it ruled the sport compact scene, or at least bring it back as a frontrunner in what has, in the meantime, become a fairly crowded field of sport compact superheroes.

Honda all but created the modern sport compact scene with the Civic S in 1984, the Si in 1986 and the iconic CRX Si soon after that. (We still love that CRX Si.) Those early subcompact performance Hondas were simple, stylish cars that were lightweight, agile and fast—and remained fun to drive long after they depreciated into an inexpensive used car. Granted, there were sport compacts before the Civic Si (the Mini, the GTI, etc.—we know, please don’t write letters). But the Si created that fast and furious hubbub still with us today.

Then, in the mid-’90s, Honda began to drift away from the spiky-haired, budget boy racer who loved it and toward the more mainstream, mass-market buyer. Honda even identified this buyer (we are not making this up) as a 24-year-old named Jennifer. Other manufacturers stepped in to fill the subcompact performance void.

Honda has entered an Si in the market recently, but with this concept, Honda is making a loud statement that it is back. Can this new Civic Si return Honda to that glory?

This concept and some preliminary specs torn from Honda two weeks before the Chicago show suggest it can, especially since the concept is “90 percent of what the production car will be,” according to a Honda source. Of course, we’re months away from a production version, and the proof is in the piloting, but the numbers are promising.

First, consider the 200-hp dohc i-VTEC engine, six-speed manual transmission and limited-slip differential. The current Si offers “only” 160 hp, a five-speed manual and an open diff. So the concept promises to be a better car right out of the box. The European Civic Si already has 200 hp, so if we want to get miffed about that, we have every right. But no other U.S.-market Civic—Si or otherwise—has ever offered as much manufacturer-supplied power or as many gears as this concept promises. And good news: That limited-slip diff means power won’t be wasted spinning the inside tire in the corner. Top it off with a suitable exhaust note, and Honda is halfway there.

The six-speed transmission may look impressive on the spec sheet, but it is likely in there to impress the EPA more than the target buyer. Corporate Average Fuel Economy ratings are very important to carmakers, and six-speed manuals get better mileage than fives. You never hear a street kid at an import drag race talking about swapping out his five-speed manual for a six.

One big unknown is curb weight—there was none listed for the concept. Horsepower means nada unless you know how much mass it has to haul. The current Si weighs 2782 pounds. That’s more than a 2710-pound Sentra SE-R Spec V, 2593-pound Focus and even 2530-pound Corolla. Let’s hope Honda trimmed something off the beltline to make the most of those 200 ponies.

There was no real suspension used on the concept since it’s just a pusher show car. Suspension on a production Si will most likely be a better-controlled version of the current Civic, which include struts in front and a multilink rear. Purists and poseurs alike mourned the loss of the upper and lower wishbones that used to control wheel travel in Civics; you could really feel the difference, they swore, and we swore with them.

Even if you couldn’t feel the difference, the tie-in with the Formula One cars and the vague belief that Civic suspension was taken from Honda’s racing efforts kept the faithful transfixed. The same engineers who were in the paddock at Monaco and Motegi built this car, was the hope and the assumption. The loss of the wishbones made many feel the Corolla-ization of the Civic had begun. But Honda promises better control of the struts in this next Civic. We will withhold judgment until we drive one.

The concept has 18-inch cast-aluminum wheels with 225/45 R-rated “high-performance” tires. These we can assume will at least be offered on a production version since even the Chevy Cobalt offers a set of 18-inch shoes. Four-wheel discs with four-piston Brembo calipers and cross-drilled rotors are on the concept—we don’t know if all four pistons will make production, but they look nice on the show stand.

Outside, the look is stunning—sharp lines and curved shapes lean eagerly forward like a mini-muscle car rumbling next to the Christmas tree. If the production version looks 90 percent as good as this concept, it won’t be mistaken for a pedestrian grocery fetcher, and certainly not anything from Toyota.

Inside: Well, there was no inside on the concept car… just black felt to hide that there was nothing there. Sort of like the wavy blond hair on Jessica Simpson.

So will the new Si get respect from the kids with spiky hair and baggy pants? Who knows? A vast majority of those kids don’t have any money and currently wait four or five model years until a cool car hits $8,000 or so and then buy it, blindly slapping in a case-blowing turbo. For these enthusiasts, the second-generation RX-7 or any 240SX is what they’re looking for now, with a honkin’ wing slapped on the back acting as an air brake. That was the way the original Civic and Integra became cool cars, when they entered the used-car market and still had solid blocks and tune-able heads.

Regardless, if this concept shows the direction Honda is headed, then it’s a good thing. It represents an about-face from the watering down and mass-marketization of what was the leader in high-tech and fun cars.
We say, welcome back, Honda.

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101785
 

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that frontend is hot!!! i just hope when it goes into production, they keep the black housing headlight look. the rear looks good from straight-on but it looks ok from an angle.

:tu for honda on this one
 

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sombasol said:
WOW THOSE OFFICIAL PICS!!! WOW!! I'M ALLOWED TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE I ACTUALLY AM YELLING BECAUSE I'M EXCITED BECAUSE IT looks wicked!!!

p.s. where'd you get them from? I need bigger versions so I can make it my desktop
here you go :clap :clap rep me bish :D






 

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everyone is saying glass top but.... for all we know, it could be painted black just like the hood. untill i see through the top, its solid just like my lx.

awesome hi res pics. its too bad it isnt production.

if honda does it's usual then production wont have the widebody, wheels will be tucked more inward, exhaust will be off to the side like normal, the spoiler will be a little more conservative, all panels will be the same color, wheels and brakes will be smaller, and hopefully the fog lamps will not be yellow.

also, if they do like the ep3 concept, no black housed head lamps and dark colored rims either :(

either way it looks better then my 02 coupe.
does anyone know if they showed the production coupe and sedan?
 

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Honda Civic Si Concept Makes World Debut at Chicago Auto Show

Chicago 02/10/2005 -- The Civic Si Concept, making its world debut today at the Chicago Auto Show, provides a strong indication of the styling and performance direction for an all-new production Civic Si Coupe scheduled to debut later this year.

The production Civic Si Coupe will serve as the performance leader for a completely redesigned 2006 model Civic lineup that will feature more emotional styling, added performance and the latest generation of "intelligent" i-VTEC engine technology. The 2006 Civic lineup, launching this fall, will include a 4-door Sedan, a 2-door Coupe and Si Coupe, an even more fuel efficient Civic Hybrid and a natural-gas powered Civic GX.

The Civic Si Concept celebrates the 20th anniversary of the Civic Si legacy in the U.S. and builds on its performance heritage with a 200-horsepower, 16-valve, DOHC i-VTEC engine with an 8,000 rpm red line, mated to a close ratio 6-speed manual transmission. Helping to put all that power to the ground is a helical-type limited slip differential for improved launch traction and cornering performance.

Other performance features of the Civic Si Concept include 18-inch cast aluminum wheels, 225/40R18 high performance tires and 4-wheel disc brakes with large cross-drilled brake rotors and 4-piston Brembo calipers.
"The 2006 Civic Si Coupe will be the most powerful, fastest and fun-to-drive Si we've ever put on the street, and the Civic Si Concept sets the direction in terms of its styling, package and performance," said John Mendel, senior vice president of American Honda. "It's part of a new family of Civic vehicles that build on the already class-leading values of the Civic in terms of safety, styling, performance and fuel efficiency."

Designed as an "Advanced Personal Compact," the Civic Si Concept incorporates a sweeping roofline and ultra-fast windshield rake that highlights the vehicle's advanced one-motion profile, low and wide stance, and superior aerodynamic performance. The long trunk deck, with its frontward sloping bumper, accents the forward motion conveyed by the overall vehicle shape. Wheel openings have been optimized to minimize the gap between the tire and the body. Special aerodynamic features include a full front and side aero kit, rear deck wing and a lower rear bumper diffuser with an integrated center exhaust system.

The 2006 Civic Si Coupe will be the sixth generation Si, which first appeared as a three-door hatchback in 1986 with subsequent Civic Si models appearing in 1989, 1992, 1999 and 2002. The production Si will make its world debut at the 2005 Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) show in November. The Civic Si Concept was designed at Honda R&D America's Los Angeles design center.

Additional media information and photography of the Civic Si Concept are available at www.hondanews.com.
 

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um... anyone figure out how you get in the thing yet?

I'm glad to see Honda finally decided to get back in the sport market. The only other question is, how much? I'm kinda afraid but as long as it's under 22k they'll sell a ton.
haha. its a 1/2 concept, which means there is no interior. its meant to show whats inside. rather, its to show the design that you can expect.
 

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Sweet!!!!!! I likeee :w00t :w00t . Lets just hope that the 200hp engine is going in there. Still would have liked to see 220hp+. Plus this is already on a lot of other car sites and guess what........it still is getting dogged on. And I'll give you 1 guess who the biggest haters are :insert answer here: . Just hope it weighs the same or less than the current Si.
 

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Dear Honda,
As an avid Honda lover, and owner of several models in the past and currently. I am writing you this letter as a warning. The new SI concept seems to have hit the nail on the head. Looks good, supposedly performs good. Don't leave out the brakes, wheels, headlights, or powertrain. Other than that, go wild. Just remember; We, your loyalists, need something to fight WRX's, SRT4's, and now even CHEVY Cobalt's!!! We are the gun, give us the hollow-point death dealing ammo we need to let people know that Honda's are not just for "Jennifer," anymore. I am trading in the S2k for a new one, if things go as planned, I will sell my Ek for one of these babies. Make Kihachiro Kawashima proud, and honor his memory by helping us be taken seriously again. OH, and BTW, can you kill everyone who works for APC while you are at it? They are the Wal-Mart of the import industry, and I totally HATE wal-mart.

Thanks
A pissed off Irishman
 

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Dear Honda,
As an avid Honda lover, and owner of several models in the past and currently. I am writing you this letter as a warning. The new SI concept seems to have hit the nail on the head. Looks good, supposedly performs good. Don't leave out the brakes, wheels, headlights, or powertrain. Other than that, go wild. Just remember; We, your loyalists, need something to fight WRX's, SRT4's, and now even CHEVY Cobalt's!!! We are the gun, give us the hollow-point death dealing ammo we need to let people know that Honda's are not just for "Jennifer," anymore. I am trading in the S2k for a new one, if things go as planned, I will sell my Ek for one of these babies. Make Kihachiro Kawashima proud, and honor his memory by helping us be taken seriously again. OH, and BTW, can you kill everyone who works for APC while you are at it? They are the Wal-Mart of the import industry, and I totally HATE wal-mart.

Thanks
A pissed off Irishman
hahaha. from the looks of everyone response, everyone is so hyped up about the new SI. Even if we only get 90% of the concept, it would still sell.
 

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OMG, the front end is real sexy but i don't think the rear end is right with the rest of the car.and i hate the panoramic view.but the front and the side look awsome.and was that the sedan civic in the backround.
 
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