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My civic EX (98) has 93,000 miles and the ac just isn't that cold. Could it be that I need to replace my freon? How do I do that? What else would help this?
Thanks for all help. :p
 

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luv the sig..
And this may be stupid, but what kind of freon do I fill it with, and where can I get it?
 

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See what type of ac unit you have (it should say on the unit itself), I actually saw some refill kits at Target. One of those should work, I imagine. I think they were like $30-$40 bucks. If you know what you're doing, you could save yourself some money.
 

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hatchbackgirl said:
See what type of ac unit you have (it should say on the unit itself), I actually saw some refill kits at Target. One of those should work, I imagine. I think they were like $30-$40 bucks. If you know what you're doing, you could save yourself some money.
well, it's good to empty your whole system when your AC isn't all that cold.

reason being..
your car is from late 90's, assuming it's in between 97 to 99 ish.
and from then to now, you probably didn't get a AC changed, instead, probably just refilled it, or didn't even touch it at all.

if that's the case, you are using the AC gas from almost 10 years ago. :ekk

so, for the sake of the car, empty and refill it :)

and that can of refill you are talking about does cost around 30~40 dollors like you said.

but with that money and about around $60, u can get the AC exchange like it's brand new :)

i say go for the empty and refill at auto shops like grease monkey :)
 

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could have a bad condenser too

if the refill doesn't fix it, then i'd lean toward that.....when a condenser gets clogged or just quits doing it's thing (getting rid of heat in the system) then you get warmer air


hondas are notorious for this from the mid 90's on......before that, it's not so bad

our old 97 accord ex suffered from a clogged condenser.....everything else on the car was immaculate
 

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mad-ass said:
well, it's good to empty your whole system when your AC isn't all that cold.

reason being..
your car is from late 90's, assuming it's in between 97 to 99 ish.
and from then to now, you probably didn't get a AC changed, instead, probably just refilled it, or didn't even touch it at all.

if that's the case, you are using the AC gas from almost 10 years ago. :ekk

so, for the sake of the car, empty and refill it :)

and that can of refill you are talking about does cost around 30~40 dollors like you said.

but with that money and about around $60, u can get the AC exchange like it's brand new :)

i say go for the empty and refill at auto shops like grease monkey :)
Well, I really don't know what I am doing, so Grease monkey is sounding like the way to go...unless there is a DIY on how to flush and fill AC fluid. :confused
I've looked on here, but couldn't find one. :eek:
Man, I hope my condenser is ok...that would suck to replace that mug. :bh
Reps given for ALL replies...thanks to all so far.
 

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AC isn't a fluid :ahh
it's form of a gas, almost like a propain gas :ahh

go grease monkey mang..
deadly gas at that, and its r-34 refrigerant, not freon anymore
 

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IISaiNtII said:
deadly gas at that, and its r-34 refrigerant, not freon anymore
Proving my point perfectly that I am clueless on this topic...Grease Monkey here I come! :number1
Thanks, folks!! :byye
 

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Proving my point perfectly that I am clueless on this topic...Grease Monkey here I come! :number1
Thanks, folks!! :byye
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tell me how long it took.
i wasn't employeed at Grease Monkey, but I do hang around there alot.
i know all the menagers and even the store owner :w00t
when they get no cars and maybe 1 car an hour, i do all the work.

and when I did the AC exchance with BG mashine, it took me about 30 mins to do the whole process :clap

well, and free service to my car as well :evil
 

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IISaiNtII said:
deadly gas at that, and its r-34 refrigerant, not freon anymore
r-134a is freon.... :ninja


also, the problem with my ac being warm, is that heat from the header is soaking into the low side line.

You cant touch either the high, or the low lines after running the car even for a few minutes. In fact, the low side is hotter, and Im assuming its because its closer to the header than the high. This is my only guess because the pressure is at 36psi with the compressor running.

Fan turns on and everything works. Just the ac is warm, and both lines are hot. Now mind you, this is only after driving. Otherwise, the lines are cool. So I guess my only option is to wrap the lines with an insulator, and wrap the header with heat wrap.
 

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hehe, glad I started this thread, cuz it looks like we're ALL learning something... :rolleyes :lol2
 

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just get one of those r134a manifolds with the lo and hide side lines i would recommend getting the old shit evacuated out. hook it up to the lo side and close the hide side valve and shake in the amount u need..with the car running ac on. just keep an eye on the high side and make sure it doesnt go up to high. usuallly around 80-100 degrees ill say about 245-250psi is good for high side and about 45 psi for lo side
 

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:btu Being that your car is a 98,your car has 134A type freon in it. For it not to be as cold as you like,you must have a small leak in your system,usually a bad O ring. Get vthe system looked at before you top up. Otherwise you will loose your new freon. The stuff is not cheap, and you must be licenced to use the stuff, believe me I know, Ijust renewed mine as I am a licenced tech .
 

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XKWISIT1 said:
:btu Being that your car is a 98,your car has 134A type freon in it. For it not to be as cold as you like,you must have a small leak in your system,usually a bad O ring. Get vthe system looked at before you top up. Otherwise you will loose your new freon. The stuff is not cheap, and you must be licenced to use the stuff, believe me I know, Ijust renewed mine as I am a licenced tech .
O, okay.
I guess I will get the Grease monkey guys to look it over before working on it.
Thanks :D
 

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XKWISIT1 said:
:btu Being that your car is a 98,your car has 134A type freon in it. For it not to be as cold as you like,you must have a small leak in your system,usually a bad O ring. Get vthe system looked at before you top up. Otherwise you will loose your new freon. The stuff is not cheap, and you must be licenced to use the stuff, believe me I know, Ijust renewed mine as I am a licenced tech .
not to be a dick, but they sell r134a refringerant at wal-mart. you don't have to be a genious to know how to use the kit they sell... especially seeing as how it comes with the gauges, and instructions.

also, my best friend is a licensend (sp?) hvac tech as well...
 
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