i second that comment, i was in that mentality that the stronger the clutch is the better so i went ahead and got a four puck on my fwd talon, and hell yeah it gripped like a muther but i hated the chatter, even at high speeds it would make my car vibrate, about a year later my clutch was slipping even in fifth when boost would barely show, i couldnt even pass cars at the speed limit, but i always thought "my clutch is undistructable" and blammed it on everything else but the clutch, changed the master cylinder, slave and nothing, i even blammed it on our famous crank walk, till i said fuck it, took down the tranny and sure enough, the four puck ate through the pressure plate and flywheel, only the outter metal edges were making contacts, im surprised the car even moved at all, since then went ahead and bought an act 2100 and i love it, no more shatter, grips good and even my high speed vibrations went away, i did have a throw out bearing go out on my within a couple of weeks but it was because the flywheel step was machined wrong, got that fixed put another throw out bearing in and havent had a problem with my clutch since, i put in a ss braided clutch line to help give me more of a positive feel to the clutch pedal, so act has my thumbs up :tu, i dont recommend any puck clutches for the street, too much of a bitch to drive, but are kick ass on the track for when you do need all that extra holding power, but remember the more holding power you have, yes more power to the ground, but the more trannys your gonna go through, at least in the dsm world