Any JRSC auto DX's or LX's out there?

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Bryan99cvc

Discussion Starter · Feb 19, 2002

Ive always wondered what my car would run, does anyone have any pictures?

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4doorGSR

· #2 · Feb 19, 2002

if i had your car and the $3000-4000 for a JRSC and install and anyother goodies you want i wouldn't buy it. that motor doesn't have the potental you would expect after spending $3000. so i would recomend an engine swap to a B18c1 (GSR motor). that should be your first mod if your at all insterested in hitting low 15's and any 14's.

IMO thats the best money spent in your situation.

AcidLotus

· #3 · Feb 19, 2002

I think I'm going to have to disagree with 4doorGSR. The DXs are actually a bit quicker than the EXs despite the 12 HP less the DXs have. You'd probably be better off with a B16 or B18C swap, because you can do more to it down the road, but I'm fairly impressed with the HP my JRSCd D16Y8 is putting out in my EX. If you really don't want to swap, go for the JRSC on the DX and it will probably blow the doors off of SIs and GSRs alike.

Bryan99cvc

Discussion Starter · #4 · Feb 19, 2002

even an auto?

4doorGSR

· #5 · Feb 19, 2002

exciv2000 said:
...go for the JRSC on the DX and it will probably blow the doors off of SIs and GSRs alike.

REALLY!!!

AcidLotus

· #6 · Feb 19, 2002

well, okay, maybe not an auto.

AcidLotus

· #7 · Feb 19, 2002

4doorGSR said:
REALLY!!!

well stock GSRs and slightly modified SIs

sak

· #8 · Feb 19, 2002

Are you sure? neo is still having a good deal of trouble just beating a stock GSR? And he has an LS w/JRSC! Maybe he just really suck?

csufweed

· #9 · Feb 19, 2002

neo?? wassup wit dat man??? cant beat a GSR?!

my auto LS runs aiight... I've beaten many many cars in my time. However, the bottom line is a turbo will give you much more power. The difference, JRSC has power at a tap of the gas. Turbo, you need to floor it to get boost. JRSC 40% increase, little upgradability. Turbo, damn near infinite power and potential. Floor it with a turbo and you get more power than you would ever imagine with the JRSC.

Anyways, I dunno about the weak lil civic engines... i'd toss it, then turbo. But thats just me, right? Not many people care to own a 10 second civic...

AcidLotus

· #10 · Feb 19, 2002

Are you serious? I pulled hard on a stock GSR from behind... if there was no traffic I would have beat him easily. The other GSR I raced with I/E that I could see, maybe more, and I spanked him by about a car length or so.

sak

· #11 · Feb 19, 2002

How does your car do in the shift to 2nd from 1st? Does it even spin the tires at all? The reason I'm asking is that when I drove neo's car, way back in early winter, I had a lot of trouble just trying to spin the tires on the transition. I mean all I could do was a little chirp?

But integraGSR's near stock GSR (I/H) chirps easily and a lot if done purposely. And my car almost does it all the time if you're not careful.

But I really think his gearing sucks. Thats probably why. Becasue in a GSR, once VTEC kicks in on the high rpm band there is actually more power and redline is reached faster. Whereas on an LS tranny the higher you go the slower it takes to reach redline and the slower it goes in that range too because it doesn't have VTEC to help push it some more.

I don't know. I mena I just don't feel like boosting little motors after riding in his car. Not saying anything bad, but a more stronger motor is just more fun to start with, especially when you add boost. But thats just my take on it.

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AcidLotus

· #12 · Feb 19, 2002

I can spin the tires pretty easily all the time from 1st to 2nd. I've only once chirped them from 2nd to 3rd, and only once broke them loose in 1st after slammin the gas while cruising slowly in 1st. Also, I'm at 5800 feet above sea level, so that might make a difference... I'm thinking if I were at or near sea level, I could probably chirp them pretty consistently from 2nd to 3rd.

csufweed

· #13 · Feb 19, 2002

chirping tires is really not a good indication of power... neither is massive wheel spin a good indication of power. it is simply the lack of traction. for example, my friend drives like a maniac and he had gotten a 92-95 civic dx just for a reliable car, yet he still drives HARD! Let me tell ya, this stock civic dx chirps its tires like crazy! Even with a full load in the car! also i used to spin my tires like mad and have no traction at all! Driving around town, if I went half throttle off the line I would spin the tires for two whole rotations! Thats with Z-Rated Yokohama AVS's! Now I went with a better tire and get NO wheel spin off a full throttle launch... it's all about traction. dude, I smoked muscle cars off the line! Old muscle cars I have raced, I smoked PERIOD! Newer ones like camaro's and firebird's I smoke off the line, but lose it on top end. Its not the car's fault that its slow, I place the blame on the JRSC kit. I hate the fuel management! They rely on tricking the ecu and some other BS that leaves most cars running rich and slow. If neo cannot beat a GSR, I will bet you that he is running WAY rich or something OR he is a bad driver. (no offense neo) Not saying a JRSC is bad, just the kit is bad. Team it up with Hondata and you'll be pretty well off...

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AcidLotus

· #14 · Feb 19, 2002

Well if I can spin them with drag radials on from 1st to 2nd, I'd say that's a pretty good indication of power, because you should know those can get very sticky.

AznGrrl

· #15 · Feb 19, 2002

I've seen an EX w/ JRSC run 16's. If you're gonna drop that much money for a 16 second car, I think you'd be better off doing something different. JRSC, imo, is not worth the money.

You want some power, do a swap, then slap on a Vortech.

sak

· #16 · Feb 19, 2002

AznGrrl said:
You want some power, do a swap, then slap on a Vortech.

I think yo got it all wrong here. JRSC is for a different purpose of racing. And besides, Vortech is a peice of shit IMO. When driving a car equipped with a JRSC you practically have to learn how to drive the car again. It's all driver when the car hits 16's.

As for indication of power, well, I think chirping the tires is a good indication to a point. Because that just means that he has no torque at all. And the tires are the same on integraGSR's car and neo's car. the only difference is that neo has 16" rims and the GSR has stock 15" rims.

Quite honestly, I've only been able to chirp 2nd to 3rd a few times. And that was by luck only. One other thing is I do think that neo needs to tune up his car real real real good! I do think he is seriously considering a standalone like me.

AznGrrl

· #17 · Feb 19, 2002

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sak said:
I think yo got it all wrong here. JRSC is for a different purpose of racing. And besides, Vortech is a peice of shit IMO. When driving a car equipped with a JRSC you practically have to learn how to drive the car again. It's all driver when the car hits 16's.

Jackson is good for low end, Vortech is good for high rpm. Vortech also isn't as picky about temperature as JRSC.

ok, ok this is a 2 litre, not a 1.6, but just looking at that chart gets my panties wet. now look at a dyno chart for JRSC...

ok?? nuff said.

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sak

· #18 · Feb 19, 2002

AznGrrl said:
Jackson is good for low end, Vortech is good for high rpm. Vortech also isn't as picky about temperature as JRSC.

Thats why I said it really depends on the racing that you do.

AznGrrl said:
ok, ok this is a 2 litre, not a 1.6, but just looking at that chart gets my panties wet. now look at a dyno chart for JRSC...

ok?? nuff said.

I wish I could get you a picture of a 2.0L with a JRSC kit!

Unlike you getting wet, I'll be drooling! It'll probably make lots of power also. Next time why don't you compare apples to apples.

And I guess you are still looking at just peek numbers when you look at performance stuff huh? If you really wanted high end, just a turbo. It'll beat a Vortech anyday.

AznGrrl

· #19 · Feb 19, 2002

sak said:
If you really wanted high end, just a turbo. It'll beat a Vortech anyday.

LOL ok. I guess I shouldn't say anything since I'm going all motor anyways, but at least this gives me something to do on SHO.
And peak numbers??? Uhm, look at the line...

sak

· #20 · Feb 19, 2002

Yeah peak numbers. Look at where the hp and torque peaks are at in the rpm. both peak out at 8500rpm. Now thats peak. Pretty much nothing until redline I guess. If thats how you drive. That would be the best SC car if you launched at 7000rpm and shifted at 9000rpm. :laughy:

And look at that flat torque on the JR unit!

Even Tuan, an all motor guy says that he tried to get a flat of a torque as possible when tunning his NA car.

I would love to build me an all motor car too, but then it would only have to be a race car since an all motor car's main enemy is weight! Your car just has to be anorexia or bulimia (or whatever that term is for people wanting to look skinny).

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