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deaf? yeah right- ive had my n1 for like a year and a half, i bought the full catback piping, and trust me the piping that comes with it is MORE than fine for anything youll ever be doing with the car. the n1 is loud as hell with the silencer out (it comes with the silencer when you buy the cat back system) and sounds incredibly mean when you put the silencer in as well- too totally different sounds, but personally i like it with the silencer in because it gives back a little of the backpressure youll be losing with the bigger piping (yes, youll lose a little low end ballz with this exhaust, but like i said, somewhat fixable by throwing the silencer back in). PEACE
 

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I think the n1's are obnoxious

My personal opinion is that the N1 is to be like the tanabe racing medalion. I think they are obnoxious. I don't know maybe for different applications it varies (who knows)
 
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