[ciVicTyP3r]

i was interested in getting either a sc400...or straight up 99 civic hatch with a swap. i wanted my car to be a jdm type r. with a type r engine. a friend of mine told me that if i swapped with a b16 and a gsr tranny, that the hp output would be equivalent to the hp of a jdm type r engine. is this true? or anything close to it? any suggestions? please help!!

 

[DAFeLUNG]

not even close. If you got a regular sirII b16 w/ 170 hp, you'd still be 15 hp short of the b16b. If you got the gsr tranny, you'd still be a far cry from anything close to the CTR tranny. Those gear ratios are much better than the gsr, and it has a lsd.

 

[ciVicTyP3r]

yeah....thats what i was thinking also. but then w/o spending all those moolahs just to import a ctr engine, whats the best way to come close to a ctr engine?

 

[LuckyH]

Just buy a B16 Eng & trans, then put Type R cams in it, get a 3angle valve job, and get an Apex'i VTEC controller (also lets you tune A/F ratio. Then go get the thing on a dyno and tune it. W/that and all your other basic bolt on's that engine would scream.

 

[DAFeLUNG]

upgrade the valve train so they you can take the revs to 8,800 or so. Get cams that'll make power @ those high revs though. You could also up the compression a point or so

 

[Savedsol]

A B16B (CTR engine) is a destroked B18C5. If you wanted to build a powerhouse just get the B16A, CTR cams & CTR pistons. That's the ticket! Or buy a Type R engine for a little more than what you'll spend in labor and parts.

 

[DAFeLUNG]

its actually not as simple as that. If you get a b16, you cant put the CTR pistons in it w/out modification to the rods. The CTR pistons will go into a b18c5 or a b18c just fine though. (tricky honda)

other lil stuff: The valve springs, and intake valves are a lil different on the b18c5 then on the b16b (the b18c5 is actually a higher revving motor stock, even though the 1.74 rod/stroke ratio of the b16 makes it a good candidate for high reving)

 

[Savedsol]

I was just tyring to keep it simple. I didn't want to go into the extra 3 degrees of duration on the intake cam.......

 

[nonvtecDA9]

why not just get the ctr piston rod set? the rod length should be the same as a normal b16a right? then through on the whole CTR valvetrain, bigger TB and better IM, JDM 4-1 header, 5 lug conversion, honda lsd, and a set of recaro seats then you basically have a type r. simple as that. hahah

 

[Savedsol]

Don't forget red floormats!

 

[nonvtecDA9]

oh good one saved del sol. i also forgot the one thing that makes an R an R, the TYPE R phone holders

 

[Savedsol]

AWESOME

 

[nonvtecDA9]

hey savedelsol i jus notice you from chicago, what part?

 

[DAFeLUNG]

yeah, i know...i just dont want some guys spending 200 bucks plus labor to get ctr pistons, and then finding out that he has to modify the rods before he can actually use em. That would suck

 

[Savedsol]

I'm from Naperthrill... er, Naperville. And you?

 

[nonvtecDA9]

oh, im in the city, northside, crazy ass weather we been getting