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Building up a D16?

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Whats up everyone, glad the site back on track! Well I decided that I'm gona get rid of my d15b7, and throw in a d16z6. I wanna be a little different and take the road less taken!! haha, I'm either gonna go low compression w/ turb or high comp all motor. What do you recomend, and if you have done either of these, how and what parts did you do it or use? I was gonna go with the greddy kit but I don't know how good it is!! Either way I want a high reving beast!! What do I need to go High Comp with a safe readline at 10k, looking to spend $2500 and build it myself, with the hepl of a machine shop. Also what kinda hp and tq numbers am I looking at either way! PLease help me out everyone thanxs, Chris
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hey man, I would go turbo, it's nice to see someone working on a d-series too:)
Definatly, I so tired of b series engines, gotta be different!
92civichatch said:
Whats up everyone, glad the site back on track! Well I decided that I'm gona get rid of my d15b7, and throw in a d16z6. I wanna be a little different and take the road less taken!! haha, I'm either gonna go low compression w/ turb or high comp all motor. What do you recomend, and if you have done either of these, how and what parts did you do it or use? I was gonna go with the greddy kit but I don't know how good it is!! Either way I want a high reving beast!! What do I need to go High Comp with a safe readline at 10k, looking to spend $2500 and build it myself, with the hepl of a machine shop. Also what kinda hp and tq numbers am I looking at either way! PLease help me out everyone thanxs, Chris
With$2500, you should go the Turbo route. Not really enough money to go N/A. You can pick up a turbo, get a R-ideal Gasket to lower your compression, ZEX cool temperature spark plugs, and easily run 8-10 psi on pump gas getting about 180-200 hps to the wheels with the right bolt-ons. YOu'll be happy with that, kicking an RSX-S's ass...
8-10 psi on stock internal, I dunno, I've heard that hese motors can only handle up to 7psi, on stock inerds! what turbo kit you recomend, greddy?
WELL YOU CAN BOOST UP TO 8 PSI IF YOUR FUEL MIXTURE IS CORRECT AND BE OK ON STOCK INTERNALS, BUT UNTILL YOU GET PROPER FUEL MANAGEMENT I WOULDNT BOOST OVER 6.5 WHICH IS WHAT THE GREDDY BOOSTS FROM THE FACTORY
D16 FURY:D :D :D
AND ALSO I WOULD REPLACE THE GASKET ON YOUR OIL PAN THE EXTRA PRESSURE FROM THE TURBO WILL CAUSE IT TO LEAK IF ITS VERY OLD AT ALL........GOOD LUCK ON THE D16 (REMEMBER YOU CAN MAKE A D16 A ROCKET IF YOU DO IT RIGHT :D )
mhardy said:
WELL YOU CAN BOOST UP TO 8 PSI IF YOUR FUEL MIXTURE IS CORRECT AND BE OK ON STOCK INTERNALS, BUT UNTILL YOU GET PROPER FUEL MANAGEMENT I WOULDNT BOOST OVER 6.5 WHICH IS WHAT THE GREDDY BOOSTS FROM THE FACTORY
D16 FURY:D :D :D
AND ALSO I WOULD REPLACE THE GASKET ON YOUR OIL PAN THE EXTRA PRESSURE FROM THE TURBO WILL CAUSE IT TO LEAK IF ITS VERY OLD AT ALL........GOOD LUCK ON THE D16 (REMEMBER YOU CAN MAKE A D16 A ROCKET IF YOU DO IT RIGHT :D )
Damn is your keyboard broken or what? The caps lock key is just left of the A.
bahhh I was at work and for what I do we use all caps so thats what you get when im there , if you squint your eyes when you read the posts you wont even notice the difference............see try it TOO BAD BETTER CLOSE YOUR EYES IF YOU DONT LIKE IT :sleep:
ITS QUITE ALRIGHT ITS JUST A LITTLE HARD ON MY EYES. I WANT TO READ POSTS BUT I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO SQUINT TO SEE THEM, PLUS IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE YELLING. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING? DOSENT IT SEEM KINDA LIKE I AM YELLING AT YOU? DOSENT IT HURT YOUR EYES TO SQUINT THIS MUCH?
I would also go Turbo, if I had the money. Start off with a Greddy kit, or make your own. Add a thicker head gasket, some GSR injector's, an FPR, Small Intercooler Kit, and then maybe some Rod's and Piston's, and then turn up the boost. You now have yourself a very nice D16Y8 that will work very well.
plus if you blow the engine it's only like $450 :)
Go Turbo, i'm in the process of building mine with SRP rods and Wiesco Dished Forged Pistons, total seal rings and i'm getting the heads ported and polished. This motor is perfect for boost cause if you blow it it'll be so cheap to replace. later down the road i'll get some Zex to shoot through the motor and see how their camshaft is with turbo setups. oh yes as far as which kit to get, i recommend Greddy, it's Carb Legal and is a great starting point. Don't go past 10 psi on stock internals and your gonna want a Air /Fuel controller to control the Injectors the kit comes with. I'm thinking of getting a Walbro Fuel pump(if they make it for my car) cause i'm gonna be running about 1.0 bar and about a 25-40 shot on the built bottm end. It should definitely put me in the mid to high 12's on street tires. I hope i helped you out.;)
hmmmm, GReddy makes a kit for the DX? I don't see one listed in their catalog on their site, maybe they didn't include it?
D16Y8 Turbo

Yeah it's good to be different! I built up my car back in '98 with a Greddy turbo. It's been a crazy time, but it's woth it. I started out w/no intercooler and 6 psi, (best time with street trim 15.0)raced an Impala and threw a rod. (for some reason, fuel cut was nowhere to be found) After that, got a new block and head, threw in JE pistons (9:1) Crower rods and NuFormz block guard, stage 3 clutch and all sorts of gauges. Got my time down to 14.4 in street trim w/8 lbs of boost, meaning I ran with my heavy 17's and full interior. Only this time my head gasket went, so I put a greddy one in. Let me tell you though, quarter mile times could be better due to traction problems, but on the highway, its a different story. club velocitek
it's cool, like i said I keep caps lock on at work.

(I do Engineering work all lettering is all caps so no im not yelling)
I do know what your saying about yelling im not new to the computer world. but no flamin it's all good.
:D
If you're heading towards the "road less taken", all engine is the way to go. Downside, lots of time and money to be invested. If you wanted to find the best way to spend $2500, turbo all the way. Why? I went with the All Motor with the head work. I am impressed with the results but you're never satisfied. Therefore, FI is the next step. JRSC is definitely on the list. That's just my opinion.....
92civichatch said:
8-10 psi on stock internal, I dunno, I've heard that hese motors can only handle up to 7psi, on stock inerds! what turbo kit you recomend, greddy?
Engines blow because of detonation. Honda engines can take the pressure as long as knocking does not occur. Four things:

1) intercooler, should get a kit that comes with one
2) ZEX plugs, lower ignition temperature
3) R-ideal gasket, reduced compression ratio
4) More fuel, either by adding more injectors or adding a high flow pump and replace the injectors


All of which reduces the knocking threshold of the engine, hence make boost safer. 8-10 is easy, as long as you don't go half way when setting up.
Another added bonus of building of the d series block... when you smoke a DOHC owner and you pop the hood and you see the look on their face when they see you only have one cam... that's priceless :)
If you build up your bottom end you can use LS rods. I read this in honda tuning a while back. You have to take them to a machine shop to get them to fit a civic, but they will hold over 300 hp (not sure if it said crank or wheel hp), but its a much cheaper alternative. It said like 100 for the rods from a junkyard and 100 for the machine work.
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