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Sticky for California Smog laws?

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only post relevent information in this thread, and please don't use the board as a one on one messenger service.

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Awsome idea, CARB sucks, especially now in San Diego, they are having check points, like the DUI ones but for cars, they check to make sure all your ish is legal... lame
 

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Awsome idea, CARB sucks, especially now in San Diego, they are having check points, like the DUI ones but for cars, they check to make sure all your ish is legal... lame
Ive seen those here in LA.....One word: TERRIFYING!!!!!
Lucky I was in my work truck.......
 

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Bad News :

Sometime late this year or 2004 Cali will be Advanced(smog2) all around the state.

Advance smogs test for the emissions of the gas NOx and to check this gas properly you must test on dyno.
 

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yea I heard about the dyno and NOx tests. I think all smog shops that are wanting to stay open must update their stations by the end of this year or something by installing a dyno machine.
 

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Bad News :

Sometime late this year or 2004 Cali will be Advanced(smog2) all around the state.

Advance smogs test for the emissions of the gas NOx and to check this gas properly you must test on dyno.

what are you talking about they already test that......btw i think they should sticky this information:



Overview
Engine changes continue to present problems and challenges to car owners and technicians. Here are some tips to keep you and your customers on the straight and narrow.

Our recommendation is to rebuild and reinstall the original engine, transmission, and emission control configuration.

When rebuilding an engine, it must be rebuilt to the original equipment specifications. However, if you do decide to change the engine, these guidelines must be observed to ensure that the vehicle will be eligible for smog certification or registration.

Remember, these are guidelines for performing engine changes -- not certification procedures. All exhaust emission controlled vehicles with engine changes must be inspected by an official referee station and must have a Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) Vehicle Identification Label affixed to the doorpost.

Remember also, state and federal anti-tampering laws generally prohibit any modification to the vehicle's original emission control system configuration as certified by the manufacturer. And, Section 3362.1 of the California Code of Regulations prohibits any engine change that degrades the effectiveness of a vehicle's emission control system.

California Certification
A federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) certified (federal or 49-state) engine cannot be used in a vehicle that was originally certified for California.

Certification Standards
Make sure the engine and emission control configuration on exhaust - controlled vehicles are certified to the year of the vehicle or newer, and to the same or a more stringent new vehicle certification standard.

Classification
Don't mix engine and vehicle classifications which will degrade the emissions certification standards. For example, a heavy-duty engine cannot be installed in a light-duty exhaust-controlled chassis even if they have the same displacement. Non-emissions controlled power plants such as industrial or off-road-use-only engines may not be placed in any exhaust-controlled vehicle.

Computer Controls
If a computer-controlled engine is installed in a non-computerized vehicle, the "CHECK ENGINE" light, the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) diagnostic link, and all sensors, switches, and wiring harnesses needed to make the system fully functional must also be installed.

Emission Control Configuration
Mixing and matching emission control system components could cause problems and is generally not allowed. Engine and emission control systems must be in an engine-chassis configuration certified by the California Air Resources Board (ARB) or U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). The engine must meet or exceed the requirements for the year and class of vehicle in which it is installed.

Emission Warranty
Voiding the vehicle manufacturer's emission warranty is not allowed.

Engine Modifications
No internal or external engine modifications (cams, pistons, intakes, etc.) may be performed unless the parts are ARB-exempted or EPA-certified for use in the installed engine. Use the database on this site to search for aftermarket parts covered by ARB Executive Orders.

Original Equipment
The installed engine and host chassis must retain all of their original emission control equipment. Diesel-to-gasoline conversions must have all gasoline engine and chassis emission control systems installed (such as fillpipe restrictor, catalytic converter and evaporative emission system).

Smog Inspection
These vehicles must pass a complete smog inspection (visual, functional, and tailpipe).




that is the california BAR engine change guidelines
 

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whats up...

Hey im not from california. just here to express my views.

I personally think that smog test is gay, its the goverment's way of trying to save the eviroment, which is nonsense. Look at Florida. They have no Cats on there cars. In Japan its the same. Besides the fact that they have 104 octane ;). If im not wrong, soon enough if you live in Kali. YOu better drive a battery power car, LOL.

I feel bad for the import fans out in kali. 5-0 hating
 

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Tanabe_Luder said:
Hey im not from california. just here to express my views.

I personally think that smog test is gay, its the goverment's way of trying to save the eviroment, which is nonsense. Look at Florida. They have no Cats on there cars. In Japan its the same. Besides the fact that they have 104 octane ;). If im not wrong, soon enough if you live in Kali. YOu better drive a battery power car, LOL.

I feel bad for the import fans out in kali. 5-0 hating

i agree....however their 104 octane is not equivalent to our 104 octane, they calculate it different
 

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is it gay, hell yes, is it as bad as some are making it out to be, NO
Its bad enough for it to be the ONLY reason that I'm moving out of the state. I have ALL of my family here in SoCal, I like my job and I love the weather, I just HATE the politics/laws here. But thats just my opinion...:D
 

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Its bad enough for it to be the ONLY reason that I'm moving out of the state. I have ALL of my family here in SoCal, I like my job and I love the weather, I just HATE the politics/laws here. But thats just my opinion...:D

yeah but running away from it wont solve the problem....remember there are laws EVERYWHERE you go
 

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your right there is laws everywhere you go. But then again, I wouldn't live in an area like kali. I live in ny. and yes there is smog test. But cops will NOT stop you and check for smog test. I have a friend wit a type S rsx, and an Si with NO cat, and they both has never been stop, and laws here arent changing like every day. I think NY could care less about that, while out there, there is homelss people, and worst cases, that they should be focusing on. Like the War.

Rather then someone's car. :rolleyes:

If I was living in Kali, and my hobby is cars. I would get my A$$ out of that state and move to another.

DONT LET PEOPLE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE.
 

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Tanabe_Luder said:
your right there is laws everywhere you go. But then again, I wouldn't live in an area like kali. I live in ny. and yes there is smog test. But cops will NOT stop you and check for smog test. I have a friend wit a type S rsx, and an Si with NO cat, and they both has never been stop, and laws here arent changing like every day. I think NY could care less about that, while out there, there is homelss people, and worst cases, that they should be focusing on. Like the War.

Rather then someone's car. :rolleyes:

If I was living in Kali, and my hobby is cars. I would get my A$$ out of that state and move to another.

DONT LET PEOPLE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE.

i think the thing you are forgetting is that those roadside checks are OPTIONAL while they will try to muscle you into it, it is YOUR LEGAL RIGHT to say no and they cant do shit about it
 

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temp said:
yeah but running away from it wont solve the problem....remember there are laws EVERYWHERE you go
I'm not running away from it, I know theres laws everywhere, but I dont have to be here and support these ones. Should I hang out here and break these laws when I can move to another state and be perfectly legal? There isnt another state in the US that has such strict smog laws, so why should I live in the ONE state that has them? My passion is my car and when fuckt up politicians that drive around in their 60k, 70k, 80k Bimmers and Benz make up laws that are even more fuckt then they are, it kinda ruins my whole "passion". Then on top of that you have the San Diego P.D. bustin balls for everythin from motor swaps (that would pass smog on any given day) to friggin led's on your hood. Their out there with rulers measuring your ride height. This is only going to spread to the rest of the state, its not going to get any better. You cant get a break in this state!

On another note temp, do you have to make an argument out of everything? I see you around the SHO board and I respect A LOT of stuff you say, but it seems like your always tryin to make an argument out of something that everybody seems to agree on (ie, smog laws in cali REALLY REALLY suck). Like I said before I have a lot of respect and I'm not flamin, I just seem to argue with you more then agree with you...
 
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